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Post by ge_rik » Mon Sep 22, 2025 7:55 am

philipy wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 7:30 am
I didn't see any sign of a bot filter though?
It came up the first time I accessed the site, but not since.

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Post by ge_rik » Mon Sep 22, 2025 7:57 am

GTB wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 5:30 am Yesterday was a miserable day so I spent it in my reading chair with a pile of books and the radio on in the background. The velcro cats as usual decided I needed company.....

A couple more books to check out. 'The Irish Narrow Gauge. Vol. 2 by Tom Ferris' has a couple of photos of the transfer wagons. It also has a pic. of a larger container lettered for the CDR, sitting in a CDR open wagon.

Another book I have is 'The Irish Narrow Gauge in Colour by Norman Johnston'. Colour photos from the period aren't the best, but there's a pic showing a couple of small 'Jacobs Biscuits' containers in a PO colour scheme (a beige box with a red Jacobs logo).

Both books suggest in the photo captions that the CDR used containers to avoid Customs hassles with goods from the Republic passing through Ulster to Donegal.

Graeme
Thanks. Very helpful.
I found the photos in my edition of The Irish NG Vol 2, but I don't have the other book. I also browsed through another couple of my Irish NG books, but drew a blank.

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Re: Containerisation comes to the PLR

Post by philipy » Mon Sep 22, 2025 8:41 am

philipy wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 6:51 pm
I have various LMS rolling stock books and I'll have a look when I get chance but I can't get to them atm.
Just managed to get to the book I had in mind, but probably not a lot of use for your purposes.
However, in "An Illustrated History of LMS Wagons Vol 1 by R.J. Essery, there are drawings for 9 container trucks/chassis, most of which only show a nominal outline of the actual containers but a few of those also show nom. dims for the container. There are also some photos of containers on wagons.

The wagons/chassis were all built between 1930 and 1941 to various Diagrams.
BR container 16' 0-5/8" x 7'0"
BM container 16' 0-5/8" x 7'0"
M container 15'6" x 6'9"
FX container 14'7" x 6'8" (FX wood) or 6'2" ( FX boards)
FM container 14'7-1/2" x6'8-1/2"

There is reference to further info in Vol 2 but I haven't got that one. I know that here were half sized containers but maybe they were just in BR days? However, its the width that is potentially the issue and they seem to be pretty standard at around, or just under, 7ft.
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Post by ge_rik » Mon Sep 22, 2025 12:00 pm

philipy wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 8:41 am I know that here were half sized containers but maybe they were just in BR days? However, its the width that is potentially the issue and they seem to be pretty standard at around, or just under, 7ft.
I think the 'A' type containers dated right from the start.

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