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Both are brilliant looking models, but.....Rivets..........

How do you do your rivets Tom.....

Cambrian Peter....

Nail Art Derek......

Where can I get these from please...

Hi Rod, Cambrian are a company that make odds and ends for 16mm and other scales. Their 4mm kits are similar to airfix where the parts are moulded on a sprue. Their 16mm rivets are made in a similar manner and come on a sprue. They also do bolt heads that might be handy.

I have used "rivets" designed to stick on to finger nails. This was a suggestion on here a couple of years back. The 1mm ones come as a flat disc but the 2mm and 3mm come as half dome and flat backed so easy to stick to styrene sheet . The 1mm ones require a tad of pressure to ensure they stick, they are obviously punched as in the bag they are usually 4 or 5 deep. I have just noticed one of my wagon rivets is double thickness

I buy from a Swindon based ebayer and they come in bags of a 1,000 for about £2 post paid.

All said and done the brass rivets look really good but are more expensive. I may use some to secure the planks on the latest build. Model engineering suppliers carry them or Macc on ebay.

Thanks Derek, i will have a look on eBay, and put a search in for Cambrian..

The range of items produced by Cambrian is now produced by new people
This is the new website.
https://www.cambrianmodelrail.co.uk/

Just tried to find them Derek, i found Macc Models, but the Cambrian site is down for maintenance apparently. But can’t see the rivets on there.

Do you have a link for that Swindon based ebayer please Derek.

The brass rivets used for this wagon are 1/16" and can be purchased in large packs from eBay or model suppliers.

I might try copper ones when I run out as they are cheaper.

As for geting them all lined up I used this wagon strip with holes drilled out where I wanted them:

https://www.swiftsixteen.co.uk/Brass-Wa ... arch=brass

tom_tom_go wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:12 pm The brass rivets used for this wagon are 1/16" and can be purchased in large packs from eBay or model suppliers.

I might try copper ones when I run out as they are cheaper.

I use brass escutcheon pins as they are much cheaper than rivets if you shop around. I have three sizes in stock, 20g, 18 g and 16g, but mostly use the 18g ones on wooden 4 wheel underframes. Being longer, they can be also used to reinforce glued joints when building in wood. The head is a bit flatter and larger than a rivet and looks more like the head of a coach bolt to my eyes.

I got the current supply from the US a few years ago, before their post office lost the plot on postal charges. From local woodworking suppliers they generally cost about the same as brass rivets, but I recently found a mob in Qld. that stock similar metric sizes for 1 or 2c each in quantity, so they'll probably get the next order.

Another useful fastener for rollingstock use is a #0 hex head lag screw. I've only found them from US suppliers, Micro Fasteners being the cheapest.

I'm not a great user of jigs, but I made an exception for wagon underframes and made some drilling templates out of shim brass for setting out the 'bolt heads' on underframes.

Regards,
Graeme

Here's a link to the Cambrian rivets nuts and bolts
http://cambrianmodels.co.uk/16intropage2.html

ikcdab wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:09 am Here's a link to the Cambrian rivets nuts and bolts
http://cambrianmodels.co.uk/16intropage2.html

Thank you, very much appreciated.