Peter Jones Loco Works #5 Mamod 0-6-0 RUTH ANN

dougrail · Post by **dougrail** » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:09 pm

One 'Great Star' tender as follows:

This tender was envisaged to go with "Nova" [now Swordbreaker] but I felt it wouldn't suit the engine. As a result I sold it to another MF member via Ebay, who in turn I believe sold it to a chap in Denmark.

Another reason I dislike the IPE and MSS tender is simple: they're too long for the size of the loco - they positivey dwarf it. I know American tenders were as big as the locos but not in the British Isles.

Tender number three of mine is a work of art/mad science however...*Vincent Price laughter*

Chris Cairns · Post by **Chris Cairns** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:33 pm

We discussed getting inserts made for those plain steel wheels earlier in this Topic.

IP Engineering may have an easy solution. Have a look at their Tralee & Dingle Pickup & Tralee & Dingle Inspection Car - http://www.ipengineering.co.uk/page39.html The plain steel wheels that IP Eng use have been enhanced with laser cut wood inserts.

Perhaps we can persuade Busted Bricks to add laser cut wood inserts for the IP Eng/Dream Steam/PPS/Roy Wood Models steel wheels to his expanding budget business.

Chris Cairns.

dougrail · Post by **dougrail** » Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:46 pm

Hoever, wood inserts on wheels that will get hot and wet? I'm not so sure chaps. :/ I think metal or brass ones would be best.

Could someone roduce a series of spokes with curved ends to fit into the wheels?

Roy Wood · Post by **Roy Wood** » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:02 pm

Hello all
This is just a quick update to say that my website is now up and running and can be found at www.roywoodmodels.co.uk
I have been actively pursuing some of the ideas that you have put forward and some of these will find their way into production before long.

Kind regards
Roy Wood

Spule 4 · Post by **Spule 4** » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:18 pm

Roy Wood:75269 wrote:Hello all
This is just a quick update to say that my website is now up and running and can be found at www.roywoodmodels.co.uk
I have been actively pursuing some of the ideas that you have put forward and some of these will find their way into production before long.

Kind regards
Roy Wood

Well done website, and it will be interesting to see what new products or improvements come.

Chris Cairns · Post by **Chris Cairns** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:02 pm

Roy Wood wrote:This is just a quick update to say that my website is now up and running

Well Done Roy.

I know it is early days yet but it would be nice to have some photos to go with the MSS/Mamod Modifications & Enhancements. For example is the gas burner the drilled metal box burner that Alan previous sold or is it a ceramic gas burner?

I have the original prototype PPS De Winton so will get in touch regarding some spares I need to get it running properly. Nice to see you have finally modified the design to have the steam valve before the lubricator - I constantly have to clean out the oil from my sight glass tube!

Chris Cairns.

dougrail · Post by **dougrail** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:51 pm

Roy,

Very pleased as a 'Janet' [of sorts] owner to see that the new store is forging ahead nicely. Do my eyes deceive me or does the advert for the complete PPS Janet now say that the in-line lubricator has a drain and if so, do you happen to sell these seperatly?

Chris Cairns · Post by **Chris Cairns** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:43 pm

dougrail wrote:does the advert for the complete PPS Janet now say that the in-line lubricator has a drain

The IP Jane had a drain on the inline lubricator and the same applied to the old PPS Janet. They are similar to the inline lubricator sold by Roundhouse Eng.

PPS is no more - it is now called the RWM Steam 'Janet'.

Chris Cairns.

Roy Wood · Post by **Roy Wood** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:52 pm

Thanks for the messages everyone
Firstly, the standard burner of Janets is the drilled metal box but I can supply a ceramic one. The ceramic one does sit a little higher between the frames and is a bit more expensive. Personally, I'm not convinced they are worth the extra cost but am open to persuasion.
Secondly, yes, the lubricators on both locos have a drain and, yes again, I can sell them separately. I haven't listed them but would be an extra £5 on the standard one. The pipes would need bending to shape because locos do vary a bit but they are pretty soft so shouldn't be too much of a problem.
I do intend to get as many photos of products on the website as I can. Trouble is it all takes time.
In the meantime, if you ever need a photo, I can always quickly take a snap and email it.
On the earlier subject of tenders, I had none from Alan.
I am currently investigating casting domes and producing cab rear coal doors. Lots of other plans in the pipeline too.
Kind regards
Roy Wood

dougrail · Post by **dougrail** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:54 pm

Chris Cairns:75293 wrote:
dougrail wrote:does the advert for the complete PPS Janet now say that the in-line lubricator has a drain
The IP Jane had a drain on the inline lubricator and the same applied to the old PPS Janet. They are similar to the inline lubricator sold by Roundhouse Eng.

PPS is no more - it is now called the RWM Steam 'Janet'.

Chris Cairns.

RE - Lubricator. Not all PPS inlne ones had drains. I know for a fact as mine has no drain, hence my enquiry to upgrade. It's quite irritating to have to tip the loco upside down and waste a ton of still useful emulsion.

REE 'PPS Janet' - my mistake, it's a habit I will need to break and promptly!

Roy Wood · Post by **Roy Wood** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:11 pm

Hi Don't want to do myself out of a possible sale, but you don't need to tip the loco up to drain the lubricator. We have a very simple syringe that will empty the water out of the lubricator. As you will know, the still very useful oil sits on top of the water so with the syringe you can get under the oil and get just the water out. If fact, the opil is so viscous that it's hard to get that into the strings - built in safety?!
Just to re-iterate, not all PPS Janets had lubricator drains but all of mine do.
regards
Roy Wood

Chris Cairns · Post by **Chris Cairns** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:37 pm

Doug & Roy,

I stand corrected. The original PPS Janets were indeed not fitted with a lubricator drain - not sure the exact date when Alan introduced the drain.

I use a syringe with a blunt needle as supplied by Cheddar Models for their engines, and also have a Dream Steam curved tipped syringe which they supply with their Dead Leg lubricator (despite being fitted with a drain screw). Syringes and blunt needles are available on evilbay, or Dream Steam sell their curved tipped syringe separately.

I find the use of these drain screws very messy and it gets hot as well!

Chris Cairns.

dougrail · Post by **dougrail** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:50 pm

Think I might just buy a syringe with tube especially for water removal from you Roy - that and I need to go on a shopping spree for a poor old loco I recently saved from scrap so please expect an order next week Roy

CC - it's odd that you say that PPS had drains on the inline lubers because I bought Swordbreaker's first in Dec 2010 and then a second one on Aug 2011 which is the one in use.

Spule 4 · Post by **Spule 4** » Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:54 pm

YES, the syringe is something I should have ordered from Roy when I placed my order last month. Always forgetting something!

Chris Cairns · Post by **Chris Cairns** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:25 am

CC - it's odd that you say that PPS had drains on the inline lubricators

Doug have a look at this archive material from the Wayback Machine, there is a drain screw in the top photo of the PPS Janet sticking out of the lower RHS of the cab just above the rear wheel - http://web.archive.org/web/200810121118 ... /janet.htm

Chris Cairns.

dougrail · Post by **dougrail** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:24 pm

I see it...I don't believe it...but I see it! :@

I specifically ordered a setup identical to a PPS Janet...

Well now. Thanks for the wayback CC - much pause for thought. Might have to have a chat with Roy about a new'un...

Roy Wood · Post by **Roy Wood** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:59 pm

Good evening all
I thought that you might like to know that I've posted a couple of photos on the website (www.roywoodmodels.com) of a Janet with one of my cabs fitted. I think it looks rather nice but then I would wouldn't I? These will of course fit Mamods and Janes too.
On the subject of syringes, I can do them with either brass or copper tubes - no difference really except for aesthetic reasons (it just happened to be what I had at the time!)
Kind regards
Roy

Superbiker_uk · Post by **Superbiker_uk** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:50 pm

"RUTH ANN" re-visited 09 Dec 2012

Superbiker_uk · Post by **Superbiker_uk** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:52 pm

Another set of 0-6-0 frames and coupling rods waiting in the workshop for the next Mamod transformation

Roy Wood · Post by **Roy Wood** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:58 pm

Now that's looking very nice indeed. Just goes to show what's possible.
Regards
Roy Wood

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