Nice reminder of a fantastic day - cheers Shane!
The CVLR gets it's new home (WIP railway & stock)
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I came up with one more learning point for myself, to do with track layout. It's not a big issue and only came to light with an awful lot of stock on the line.hussra:53752 wrote:Lessons learned for my own line and stock
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At Porthcadno there's a very useful long headshunt on the line that comes off the loop and over the traverser. (IIRC I had the Simplex and some tippers in there for quite a bit of the day.) The interesting issue is neatly illustrated in this photo of Sir Haydn's, namely that you can only get in and out via that line if the loop is reasonably clear - easy to get blocked in by a train parked on the loop.

Of course, this type of layout is entirely prototypical! A great example is Tywyn Pendre, where the crossover (6) from main to loco shed is half way down the yard, and the point from loop to north carriage shed (9) is in a very similar position:

Rather similar sorts of problems are caused at Pendre. (One of the things about engineering trains on the TR is the need to marshall them in such a way that they fit between the no. 9 points and the fouling point at no. 3 points - that way you can still get stock in and out of the north shed.)
I'm not at all sure I can avoid such an issue myself, but it's something I'll try to be aware of.
Richard Huss
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Good point Richard, but a few things to be noted:-
-Steven will recieve a form 1 warning for dumping his coaches on the through road (Platform line is the loop here as through road should be kept clear for the exact reason you state, it's in the never yet seen sectional appendix for the CVLR
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-Yard line No 2 was empty bar a dumped loco of Gregs....Another form 1 there as locos should not be disposed of in the goods yard unless authorised by the depot foreman.
-As there were 3 shunt engines available on that day the stock in goods road No 1 (Far laft of pic) could of been shunted onto yard road No 2. As Yard road No 1 has been built to overcome the initial problem you mention. It has a swinging stopblock that allows access from the traverser so loco's can be released from the MPD through yard road No 1 & out via the yard connection which is clear of the station platform loop & through road. It also acts as an extra runround when stock is to be shunted into the wharehouse siding at the bottom left of the pic..
-Lastly the platform line is laid out ready to take another siding that will come off the platform line at the top right of pic. This will double up as a cattle dock & stock storage siding.
See there is a method in my madness...
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P.S. Diagram of Pendre shows that the problem you mention is actually doubled there..Points No 6 & 9 eeeek.
-Steven will recieve a form 1 warning for dumping his coaches on the through road (Platform line is the loop here as through road should be kept clear for the exact reason you state, it's in the never yet seen sectional appendix for the CVLR
-Yard line No 2 was empty bar a dumped loco of Gregs....Another form 1 there as locos should not be disposed of in the goods yard unless authorised by the depot foreman.
-As there were 3 shunt engines available on that day the stock in goods road No 1 (Far laft of pic) could of been shunted onto yard road No 2. As Yard road No 1 has been built to overcome the initial problem you mention. It has a swinging stopblock that allows access from the traverser so loco's can be released from the MPD through yard road No 1 & out via the yard connection which is clear of the station platform loop & through road. It also acts as an extra runround when stock is to be shunted into the wharehouse siding at the bottom left of the pic..
-Lastly the platform line is laid out ready to take another siding that will come off the platform line at the top right of pic. This will double up as a cattle dock & stock storage siding.
See there is a method in my madness...
P.S. Diagram of Pendre shows that the problem you mention is actually doubled there..Points No 6 & 9 eeeek.
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Ah, wise answers there! I reckon you need to get to work on that sectional appendix. Hadn't quite realised that what I thought was the loop is actually the through line. Should be part of learning the road, I guess.
Perhaps, if you took just a little more lawn away there might be room for an avoiding line right round the back of the station building?
Pendre is a rather awkward place to work and shunt - the position of 6 and 9 points is just a legacy of their having been left well alone when the loop was extended westwards. (What doesn't help either is the very narrow views between buildings. When crossing trains, rather than it being either left hand or right hand running, the rule is that whichever train arrives first needs to go in the loop to get it out of the way.)
Happy memories of a sunny afternoon gravity shunting Glyns with the help of Marquis de Carabas - IIRC it was my first day in Pendre box after passing out.
Perhaps, if you took just a little more lawn away there might be room for an avoiding line right round the back of the station building?
Pendre is a rather awkward place to work and shunt - the position of 6 and 9 points is just a legacy of their having been left well alone when the loop was extended westwards. (What doesn't help either is the very narrow views between buildings. When crossing trains, rather than it being either left hand or right hand running, the rule is that whichever train arrives first needs to go in the loop to get it out of the way.)
Happy memories of a sunny afternoon gravity shunting Glyns with the help of Marquis de Carabas - IIRC it was my first day in Pendre box after passing out.
Richard Huss
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There was a clue in the pic as well mate, as in the Jnc signal tall arm main (Right hand sided to be awkward of course, actually it's there ready for the cattle dock siding to go in.)hussra:53909 wrote: Hadn't quite realised that what I thought was the loop is actually the through line. Should be part of learning the road, I guess.
As for first day after passing out in a box..... Oh yes I will never forget mine either....The longest 8 hours of my life, same when I passed out as a driver...
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On a point of order!-Yard line No 2 was empty bar a dumped loco of Gregs....Another form 1 there as locos should not be disposed of in the goods yard unless authorised by the depot foreman.
When I brought the Lady Of Sherwood in at the end of her turn, I asked the Depot Foreman where I should put her - he told me to "stick it up'yard!". At least that's what I thought he said, (there was a noisy box cab passing at the time!
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Exhibit A your honour shows that 3 link couplings are in use on the front of my set and there fore I plead not guilty. Unless the rule book shows that the Rosco is responsible for the movment of the stock once the TOC has fininshed running their train.....Pendo Pilot:53908 wrote:Good point Richard, but a few things to be noted:-
-Steven will recieve a form 1 warning for dumping his coaches on the through road (Platform line is the loop here as through road should be kept clear for the exact reason you state, it's in the never yet seen sectional appendix for the CVLR)
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Point noted & the plot thickens... This is just starting to sound like the 1 to 1 scale privatised railway, if in doulbt blame everyone else!DVT Dweller:53939 wrote:Exhibit A your honour shows that 3 link couplings are in use on the front of my set and there fore I plead not guilty. Unless the rule book shows that the Rosco is responsible for the movment of the stock once the TOC has fininshed running their train.....Pendo Pilot:53908 wrote:Good point Richard, but a few things to be noted:-
-Steven will recieve a form 1 warning for dumping his coaches on the through road (Platform line is the loop here as through road should be kept clear for the exact reason you state, it's in the never yet seen sectional appendix for the CVLR)
Come to think of it I did see Gregs Lady Ann hauling your coaches Steven..
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Due to family issues have not had much chance to get out in the garden lately inbetween hospital visits & running around. Finally managed a quick blast this arvo. Had to clear the line a little & trim back some foilage. Although I have not added anything to the line for ages, nature certainly has though & things are getting nicely weathered in...
So a load of pics as was just happy to run stuff (& did a lot of steam powered shunting which I always find fun with RC).

No 10 was chosen for todays session as No 9 had flat RC batteries.


A good size mixed consist trundled around the line as I trimmed back overgrown bits.

Then some shunting at Porthcadno, rolling stock is left outside so some was hard to get rolling at first..

No 10 was in fine working order today if a little grubby.

No 9 was out of service due to RC batts though.
Now just some pics of foilage, sidings & rust...





A few more of No 10 hard at work..



& some more foilage & siding action..


At the end of the hole siding at Porthcadno is the dumped No 11, it's been there for two months now as I'm still miffed at its worn parts..


Finally I have brought some stock down from the other end of the line. Looking at disposing the mamod vans (2 van/1 brakevan). Anyone interested otherwise I'm selling them ebay/mamod forum or cutting them up. Just find they don't fit in with my other stock anymore.

Anyway, nice to finally get round to some running again..
So a load of pics as was just happy to run stuff (& did a lot of steam powered shunting which I always find fun with RC).

No 10 was chosen for todays session as No 9 had flat RC batteries.


A good size mixed consist trundled around the line as I trimmed back overgrown bits.

Then some shunting at Porthcadno, rolling stock is left outside so some was hard to get rolling at first..

No 10 was in fine working order today if a little grubby.

No 9 was out of service due to RC batts though.
Now just some pics of foilage, sidings & rust...





A few more of No 10 hard at work..



& some more foilage & siding action..


At the end of the hole siding at Porthcadno is the dumped No 11, it's been there for two months now as I'm still miffed at its worn parts..


Finally I have brought some stock down from the other end of the line. Looking at disposing the mamod vans (2 van/1 brakevan). Anyone interested otherwise I'm selling them ebay/mamod forum or cutting them up. Just find they don't fit in with my other stock anymore.

Anyway, nice to finally get round to some running again..
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Yeah Jack, the Jack will be back...90733:56820 wrote:Looking brilliant Shane, gonna get the Jack working again eventually?
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Yeeey, do like the design of it and the additions you added, be a shame for it to rust in piecesPendo Pilot:56821 wrote:Yeah Jack, the Jack will be back...90733:56820 wrote:Looking brilliant Shane, gonna get the Jack working again eventually?
Emailed Essel to get a quote for a 6 coupled chassis with dummy jackshaft drive to stick under it & get rid of the IP bit. Essel have not responded though unless it went in my spam box & I missed it. TBH got to much going on at the moment so may well be a winter project.
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Pendo Pilot:56824 wrote:A few months ago it would of been lucky to rust in pieces, I almost took the hammer to it. :twisted:
My diesel fleet is more trouble than my steamers ever have been, so much for turn on & go.. If BR had took inspiration from the CVLR modernisation plan I would be driving steam at work! ;)
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Today actually started a new project on the line.. It may of been the heat making me do this, but I started so I will finish (& then tear it down if it comes out wrong)..
Porthcadno MPD gets it's engine shed (well started anyway).


Using my high tech measuring devices (wheeling my largest loco around) I bodged together some ply & hardwood braces in the rough shape I was after.

Then when I was happy enough with that & after roughing up the ply I started coating the walls with cement..layer by layer..

The last layer was scribed with stonework whilst it was still wet.

Only finished one side so far.. & that may well fall off. We will see. Flat roof only on for trials, proper roof is planned in time. Need to apply cement inside as well so the ply is totally covered.

It's a start. Will hold two tank engines or a Fowler size loco on each road.
Whilst I'm here, some shots I added to my FB CVLR section....




Hope to crack on with the shed asap...
Porthcadno MPD gets it's engine shed (well started anyway).


Using my high tech measuring devices (wheeling my largest loco around) I bodged together some ply & hardwood braces in the rough shape I was after.

Then when I was happy enough with that & after roughing up the ply I started coating the walls with cement..layer by layer..

The last layer was scribed with stonework whilst it was still wet.

Only finished one side so far.. & that may well fall off. We will see. Flat roof only on for trials, proper roof is planned in time. Need to apply cement inside as well so the ply is totally covered.

It's a start. Will hold two tank engines or a Fowler size loco on each road.
Whilst I'm here, some shots I added to my FB CVLR section....




Hope to crack on with the shed asap...
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