How to add rust finish?
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How to add rust finish?
Can anyone give me some advice on adding a rust finish to a quarry wagon?
I think I have read that people use iron powder of some sort and vinegar/copper sulfate. What exact products do you use and how do you apply it?
Has anyone used the Modern Masters metal effects rust kit? If so, is it any good?
I think I have read that people use iron powder of some sort and vinegar/copper sulfate. What exact products do you use and how do you apply it?
Has anyone used the Modern Masters metal effects rust kit? If so, is it any good?
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Re: How to add rust finish?
I used Scenic Rust on my tipplers, but there are cheaper methods which I'm sure others will outline
https://riksrailway.blogspot.com/2010/1 ... agons.html
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Re: How to add rust finish?
Thanks very much for your reply.
That is another product that I hadn't seen before. The instructions for the Slater's wagon (that I will be using it on) mention 'Instant Rust' and I have seen another product called 'Metal Effect Rust Finish'. I might have to have a play with them to see which ones work best, although I'm guessing that they are somewhat similar.
That is another product that I hadn't seen before. The instructions for the Slater's wagon (that I will be using it on) mention 'Instant Rust' and I have seen another product called 'Metal Effect Rust Finish'. I might have to have a play with them to see which ones work best, although I'm guessing that they are somewhat similar.
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Re: How to add rust finish?
If you look through Andrew's thread, he has a very effective method of producing rust using iron powder and copper sulphate.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... st#p169100
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... st#p169100
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Re: How to add rust finish?
Just catching up here...
I still feel like I've got a lot to learn re adding rust in this way, I'm not 100% happy with the results yet.
I'd suggest getting the finest iron filings possible, and experimenting a bit - copper suplhate seems to produce lots of very orange rust pretty quickly, wheras spraying with vinegar makes a browny (sometimes almost black) rust, which takes longer to appear. I keep meaning to find out whether changing the strength of the copper suplphate solution makes a difference. One thing I have discovered it that a dilute wash of paint afterwards (eg too represent coak dust in the rusrty interior of a steel-bodied wagon) seems to work quite well.
Cheers,
Andrew.
PS I'd also suggest reading up on the safe disposal of copper sulphate - it turns oput it's nasty stuff, you can't just tip it down the sink ...
I still feel like I've got a lot to learn re adding rust in this way, I'm not 100% happy with the results yet.
I'd suggest getting the finest iron filings possible, and experimenting a bit - copper suplhate seems to produce lots of very orange rust pretty quickly, wheras spraying with vinegar makes a browny (sometimes almost black) rust, which takes longer to appear. I keep meaning to find out whether changing the strength of the copper suplphate solution makes a difference. One thing I have discovered it that a dilute wash of paint afterwards (eg too represent coak dust in the rusrty interior of a steel-bodied wagon) seems to work quite well.
Cheers,
Andrew.
PS I'd also suggest reading up on the safe disposal of copper sulphate - it turns oput it's nasty stuff, you can't just tip it down the sink ...
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Re: How to add rust finish?
I have bought some of this to try.
I have no idea how this is going to go!!
I have no idea how this is going to go!!
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Re: How to add rust finish?
Good luck - let us know how you get on!
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Re: How to add rust finish?
Yes, it will be interesting, although at a guess its just fancy packaging for Andrew's method. By the looks of it, the LH bottle is just a primer, the centre one is iron powder and and the RH bottle is Copper Sulphate ( The blue colour is the dead giveaway! ).
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Re: How to add rust finish?
That is true.
Although the ‘Iron’ bottle is a paint, not iron filings. It’s an expensive way to do it, but hopefully convenient.
The first attempt has shown some promise but needs some work. I’ll post a picture later.
Although the ‘Iron’ bottle is a paint, not iron filings. It’s an expensive way to do it, but hopefully convenient.
The first attempt has shown some promise but needs some work. I’ll post a picture later.
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