IP Engineering Albert
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Nice build Rik and as usual, a great video
Garden railways don't run on steam or electric rather wine and Jedi master level patience
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Agree with James a very nice build Rik and thanks for showing us how to wire up.
You’re one of the most helpful guys on the forum. I have learnt and found out so much since being on the forum from you.
Get both IPE and HGLW kits and then make your own conclusion…or just have them for the fun of them….
You’re one of the most helpful guys on the forum. I have learnt and found out so much since being on the forum from you.
Get both IPE and HGLW kits and then make your own conclusion…or just have them for the fun of them….
ROD
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
Re: IP Engineering Albert
Thanks Rod
Having now made both kits my comparative conclusions are:
Ease of build
The HGLW kit is easier to build - it has fewer parts and they all align with tabs and slots. The IPE parts are more delicate and only a few have tabs and slots and so rely on the builder's judgement and eye. The IPE instructions are more detailed and more helpful though I did find one section, the engine compartment lid, a bit confusing to put together.
Mechanism
The mechanism on the HGLW loco feels more robust. It has a brass worm wheel and a plastic worm, whereas the IPE mechanism has both worm and worm wheel made from plastic. The HGLW kit also comes with a spare worm, in case of wear. The wheels and gears are supplied ready mounted in the HGLW kit, whereas they need to be fitted together in the IPE kit, though a jig is provided to ensure the wheels and gear are mounted correctly. You can buy a 4wd version of the chassis for the HGLW loco whereas you have to sort that out yourself with the IPE kit. To my mind, 4wd is a must, it makes so much difference to the hauling power of the locos. The disadvantage of the HGLW loco is that it is harder to adjust the back to back measurement on the wheels which I found necessary to run through Piko and LGB pointwork. It would probably be just right for Peco pointwork.
Finish
The finish on the IPE loco is to my mind better than the HGLW loco. The IPE loco is made from thin ply whereas the HGLW loco is made from slightly thicker MDF. This means the parts on the IPE loco are finer than those on the HGLW loco, but it also means the HGLW loco is a bit more robust. Both need to be carefully rubbed down and primed before painting. The HGLW loco needed a bit more filling than the IPE loco, but that might have been my lack of precision during construction. The edges of the MDF on the HGLW loco absorb paint and so need to be sealed with extra coats of primer. Both locos can be detailed to improve their appearance.
Fitting radio control
There's a bit more room inside the HGLW loco to fit an 18650 li ion battery and a Deltang receiver controller. I found I could just squeeze two AA sized li-ion batteries beneath the the chassis of the IPE loco and wire them in parallel, so I get twice the running time. There's sufficient room on both locos for a switch and a charge socket. I'd say they are equal in terms of ease with which RC can be fitted.
Conclusion
For a beginner, I would recommend the HGLW kit. It's quicker and easier to construct. For a more experienced modeller or someone wanting a more detailed model, then I would suggest the IPE kit, though I think it is a pity a 4wd option is not provided as standard.
Rik
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Just wondering if the above should be posted in the Reviews section??
Rik
Rik
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Thanks Rik. Another brilliant review and I am now going to get both when funds permit, though it will be one bought at a time.
I think you should put it on the review thread.
I think you should put it on the review thread.
ROD
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
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The review is excellent, fair and honest. Thank you for posting it Rik.
Ian
Ian
Ian
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Taken a while (since May) to get around to finishing off this wee beastie - but she's now resplendent in PLR colours. Still need to add some detailing such as the cab interior, a driver, an exhaust pipe and some general clutter on the running board - oh and name and number plates - but otherwise she's ready to enter service. I'd forgotten what a fag painting plywood rolling stock is .....
I've blogged the build for anyone who might be interested.
https://riksrailway.blogspot.com/2018/0 ... lbert.html
Rik
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I've blogged the build for anyone who might be interested.
https://riksrailway.blogspot.com/2018/0 ... lbert.html
Rik
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Albert looks good Rik. All painting is a drag. One reason it's taken me around two years to paint my Newqida coaches. I've a load of OO stuff to paint and I can't be bothered.
Ian
Ian
Ian
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Love those little extra details on the buffers Rik.
Just read the blog and you have made the build even easier for people with little or no experience in building kits. You are correct about encouraging new people into 16mm, it is a cheap and easy build.
Thanks Rik.
Just read the blog and you have made the build even easier for people with little or no experience in building kits. You are correct about encouraging new people into 16mm, it is a cheap and easy build.
Thanks Rik.
ROD
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
Re: IP Engineering Albert
And thank you Rod. Nice to get such supportive feedback.FWLR wrote: ↑Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:37 am Love those little extra details on the buffers Rik.
Just read the blog and you have made the build even easier for people with little or no experience in building kits. You are correct about encouraging new people into 16mm, it is a cheap and easy build.
Thanks Rik.
Rik
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That really is a nice-looking little engine. Thanks for posting about it.
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