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Cheers Jim, I was looking to give a different finish to the normal brick or stone and tried to think of a way to achieve it. I haven't seen this method used before so it is a bit of an experiment, which I enjoy.
I know you often use timber because it is available to you, that makes sense, but unlike you, I don't have youth on my side so look for materials which will last in our damp climate here.
The 2mm thick HIP sheet costs just over £6 and there's enough to make this structure with all of its strengthening and detailing. I think that is a good price to pay for something which is likely to outlive me!
I watch with envy when others make moulds to cast stone effects and build walling from resin or concrete but it is out of my comfort zone so I must stick to what I know.
I do have other finishes I want to try as I have a whole village to construct.
I know you often use timber because it is available to you, that makes sense, but unlike you, I don't have youth on my side so look for materials which will last in our damp climate here.
The 2mm thick HIP sheet costs just over £6 and there's enough to make this structure with all of its strengthening and detailing. I think that is a good price to pay for something which is likely to outlive me!
I watch with envy when others make moulds to cast stone effects and build walling from resin or concrete but it is out of my comfort zone so I must stick to what I know.
I do have other finishes I want to try as I have a whole village to construct.
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So far I think I can claim my rendering as a success. Before I worked on the large factory unit I had already made a small sample to test the idea out. It has now been four days since I made it and today I gave it the sort of punishment it should never receive out on the railway.

That is quite a severe bend, and not the first one as I have bent it several ways to try out the bond to plastic and the possibility of cracking. I am pleased to say it passed on all counts.
Also, I have given a coat of water based paint on one half to see how it looks and again I am delighted with the appearance.
Can't wait to get on with the big one now.
That is quite a severe bend, and not the first one as I have bent it several ways to try out the bond to plastic and the possibility of cracking. I am pleased to say it passed on all counts.
Also, I have given a coat of water based paint on one half to see how it looks and again I am delighted with the appearance.
Can't wait to get on with the big one now.
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I've used car underseal as rendering in the past, with a bit of sand mixed in if it is not "gritty" enough. It goes on with a brush and can be removed from places it shouldn't be with a rag dipped in white spirit. Once dry its black colour can be successfully lost with a couple of coats of masonry paint.
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It lasted fine, until other parts of the wood structure fell apart due to old age (15 years) and consequent rot. This is the best picture I can find, taken about 8 years ago...Peter Butler:119400 wrote:Sounds interesting, how has it lasted and do you have pictures?
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That looks fine Tony and your comment about the wooden part failing first is the reason I went with plasticard. I would rather spend more time creating a detailed model in materials I think will last, rather than make more structures quicker using perishable materials in the knowledge that they will certainly need rebuilding in a few years. I am definitely a one-time constructor rather than a regular maintenance man.
I see your cat made good use of the shed, she has found a safe place to hide there.
I see your cat made good use of the shed, she has found a safe place to hide there.
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I'm with you all the way there Peter and if I were to build another shed then I would be looking at something more durable than pieces of tree.Peter Butler:119403 wrote:That looks fine Tony and your comment about the wooden part failing first is the reason I went with plasticard. I would rather spend more time creating a detailed model in materials I think will last, rather than make more structures quicker using perishable materials in the knowledge that they will certainly need rebuilding in a few years. I am definitely a one-time constructor rather than a regular maintenance man.
I see your cat made good use of the shed, she has found a safe place to hide there.
For a long time now I have taken the view that wood has no place, no place at all in a garden railway unless, unlike me, you are willing to spend time and money replacing it every few years. A friend of mine built his line in boil-proof rot-proof everything-else-proof timber about 10 years ago and it cost him a fortune. He tells me the wood smelt nice when it went in his log burner last winter, but that is all he had to show for it. A second fortune is currently being spent on concrete, blocks and bricks.
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Big Jim
Much as I like the idea of creosoted sleepers I have to agree with you Tony.
I have just demolished a small garden structure built 5 years ago with super duper, pressure treated timber that has been treated by myself twice with good preservative it was absolutely rotten. Now I know I have a garden that is damp and doesn't get much sun but still 5 years life out of good and expensive materials, no thanks.
I have just demolished a small garden structure built 5 years ago with super duper, pressure treated timber that has been treated by myself twice with good preservative it was absolutely rotten. Now I know I have a garden that is damp and doesn't get much sun but still 5 years life out of good and expensive materials, no thanks.
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Further progress.... the ends of the building are now rendered and the chimney ( constructed to fit the roof line around a fence vertical support batten) has been clad with stone effect sheet and capped.


So far no paint has been applied but I should be able to begin tomorrow when the SBR has had time to thoroughly dry.
So far no paint has been applied but I should be able to begin tomorrow when the SBR has had time to thoroughly dry.
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Graffiti sounds like a good idea Jim. Most of my line is still too clean and clinical and I must try to loosen up a little. 'I distress' my rolling stock but haven't done much to the structures yet.
Ideas for suitable graffity would be most welcome.
Please bear in mind I have no knowledge or interest in football, so that is out!
Ideas for suitable graffity would be most welcome.
Please bear in mind I have no knowledge or interest in football, so that is out!
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In a similar vein, I once saw some graffiti in small writing above the cistern in an old fashioned toilet cubicle. Intrigued, I stood on the seat to get a closer view. It said, "What are you doing up here, you nosy b*****d."Big Jim:119435 wrote:Best bit of graffiti I ever saw was on the bottom of a toilet door, the ones that end 4 inches from the floor. It said " beware of Irish limbo dancers."
Not really suitable for a wall though.
Really like the rendering and the concept of decaying industrial infrastructure, BTW.
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OK, own up...... whose bright idea was it to have graffiti on my building? You know I can't resist a challenge!
First I had to paint all of those individual stones and bricks, fit the roofing slates and coping stones, make the down-pipes from the gutters and then find some suitable graffiti images on that inter-watsit-thingy.
So eventually I came up with these....


Together they look like this...


And the detail of the structure.....


Next time you set me a challenge, show us yours first!!!!!
First I had to paint all of those individual stones and bricks, fit the roofing slates and coping stones, make the down-pipes from the gutters and then find some suitable graffiti images on that inter-watsit-thingy.
So eventually I came up with these....
Together they look like this...
And the detail of the structure.....
Next time you set me a challenge, show us yours first!!!!!
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