Haynes Garden Railway Manual

DVT Dweller · Post by **DVT Dweller** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:57 am

Only just been published and available now, for those that havent got a copy try

http://www.priceminister.co.uk/

if its your 1st purchase and you enter the code FIRSTBUY5 you get £5 off, just purchased my copy for £8.68 with free p&p.

Narrow Minded · Post by **Narrow Minded** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:18 am

Ah-ha! I've been hoping that someone would get this and let us know what it's really like! (I've only seen bad reviews for it

)
It'll be good to know what a "like - minded soul" on the Forum thinks about it.

That sounds like a good site you've bought it from, I'll make sure to check it out

Incidentally, for any Trekkies, I see in the latest Ian Allen catalogue that Haynes have just released an Enterprise Owners Manual

Busted Bricks · Post by **Busted Bricks** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:41 am

The bad reviews were from one of the "grumpy" egroups I take it? I'm planning on buying it along with the Marc Horowitz book. Always nice with a bit of inspiration.

Sir haydn · Post by **Sir haydn** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:46 am

get the garden railways realism one! Really good read. I wasn't sure about it at first but really a good inspirational read

Narrow Minded · Post by **Narrow Minded** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:23 pm

They'd all have a good way to go to beat Peter Jones' "Practical Garden Railways" though!

Jonnyb · Post by **Jonnyb** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:17 pm

Im sure this has been around a while, maybe its been updated.

Have to add it to the list

rjt · Post by **rjt** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:37 pm

Hi All,

My copy of the 'Manual' arrived from Amazon a couple of days ago, I had it on pre-order. Not a huge sum of money so it's worth chancing if you are a newbie (like me). It's not a 'text to read' type book. If you are of an age to remember the 'Rupert Annuals' (also like me) it's kind of like that but with colour photographs instead of the Rupert drawings

!

Now that is not a criticsm of either Rupert or Bizzard - both do (or did) the job.

Blizzard kicks off with a brief homage to Bosch and Dremel entitled "tools to do the job". Only 4 pages, basically a jigsaw ; a square; some chisels; screwdriver; drill etc.
with a colour photo of each {in case someone doesn't know what tools look like}+ the obligatory "SAFETY" notes, only 7 lines , {so everyones backs are covered} including the new kids on the block with "turn your mobile off" - don't remember that in Rupert

Down to the meaty bit -
Laying the track 4 pages of photo's of the job in hand + notes.
Mainline Station & Platform 8 pages of photo's of the job in hand + notes.
Wayside Halt 8 pages of photo's of the job in hand + notes.
Coal Yard Office
Locomotive Roundhouse pages of photo's of the job in hand + notes.
Single Road Engine Shed pages of photo's of the job in hand + notes.
Coaling Stage pages of photo's of the job in hand + notes.
Water Tower pages of photo's of the job in hand + notes.
Turntable pages of photo's of the job in hand + notes.
Signalbox pages of photo's of the job in hand + notes.
Signals pages of photo's of the job in hand + notes.
and so it goes on, covering laying the track, building the buildings, wagons, coaches, locomotive etc. etc. Each section includes a cutting list for the materials and a 3D diagram of the project.

I haven't built anything yet but am inspired to give it a go.

I suppose you could say it's "a beginner's manual" but there is something there for everyone at that price, even if it's only to make you say "I wouldn't do it like that".

A really worthwhile buy. When (IF) you grow out of it there are loads of kids out here you can pass it on to.

All the best,

Rob (in Oxfordshire UK)

90733 · Post by **90733** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:56 pm

Narrow Minded:48097 wrote:They'd all have a good way to go to beat Peter Jones' "Practical Garden Railways" though!

ooo, where can I get this, sounds good

mhlr · Post by **mhlr** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:05 am

Mine came through the other day... I'd recommend it, especially if you're a newcomer, but also great for the seasoned garden railfairer. Some bits may not be covered in great detail as such, but just requires a bit of thought and imagination of your own.

pmorgan_cym · Post by **pmorgan_cym** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:31 pm

Apparently I'm recieving the Haynes Manual for my birthday next week (but I don't know that). But from my library so far....

The Peter Jones book, is an excellent introduction into the hobby, I defy anyone to read it without wanting to build a garden railway afterwards. At no point when reading it will you think "I can't do that it's too difficult". During the construction and planning it will become your bible, not for it's technical information but for it's inspiring encouraging style.

Ian Stocks Realism book is a tricky customer, if you've read Ian's website, if you've spent time on the realism E group, you'll get a sense of de ja vu. It;s a very personal book, it expresses Ian's personal views and approaches on achieving realism rather than presenting a range of options. The same book with edited contributions from a panel of writers would probably have been more useful. You can find yourself disagreeing with Ian in a number of places and this can colour your opinion of the whole book.

The David Prat books, leave well alone, he has a style of building and is very focused towards one way of doing it, if you;ve seen the ""Garden Railway" TV show a few years back, his books will tell you how to build a railway with very much that style, and not a whole lot else.

Busted Bricks · Post by **Busted Bricks** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:38 pm

Anyone have the Marc Horowitz book? Realistically I'm not going to have a garden railway as we will be renting for the next many years. Therefore my interest is mainly in locos and rolling stock.

Michael

Sir Clothem Cap · Post by **Sir Clothem Cap** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:09 pm

renting shouldn't stop you from laying a line on planks

I've not seen the haynes bok yet but I presume dismantling is the reverse of construction.

Busted Bricks · Post by **Busted Bricks** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:33 pm

Sir Clothem Cap:48337 wrote:renting shouldn't stop you from laying a line on planks

It does if you are in an apartment which is what we are likely to get in Germany. An oval on the balcony is the best I can hope for. Never had a garden railway.

Narrow Minded · Post by **Narrow Minded** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:39 pm

pmorgan_cym:48331 wrote:..........................Ian Stocks Realism book is a tricky customer, if you've read Ian's website, if you've spent time on the realism E group, ..............

"Then you've virtually read the book already!"

Having just got my copy, I was disappointed with the lack of new material.
I really don't mind Ians style (which is what most people warn could be the cause of upset), after all he's only expressing his viewpoint, and does apologies for that at the outset.

Still worth having in the library though - you can't always be sat in front of a monitor so ready access to the inspirational photo's is the selling point for me.

RSB · Post by **RSB** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:15 pm

I received my copy of the book on friday, and although I have only really browsed through the book I am impressed with its clear layout and content.

The only thing that I'm a little disappointed about is the small section on track laying. As this is something which I am going to start soon, can anyone suggest a book that covers this area with more detail?

Sir Clothem Cap · Post by **Sir Clothem Cap** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:19 pm

are you a member of the 16mm association they issue a very helpful booklet

Narrow Minded · Post by **Narrow Minded** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:20 pm

RSB:48372 wrote:The only thing that I'm a little disappointed about is the small section on track laying. As this is something which I am going to start soon, can anyone suggest a book that covers this area with more detail?

The 16mm Association guide

!

Sir Clothem Cap · Post by **Sir Clothem Cap** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:25 pm

thats what I meant

Narrow Minded · Post by **Narrow Minded** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:40 pm

Sir Clothem Cap:48376 wrote:thats what I meant

It was an almost simultaneous posting (10:19 & 10:20) I responded after reading the plea

(Obviously, you also must have a great mind since we appear to think alike!

)

Sir Clothem Cap · Post by **Sir Clothem Cap** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:41 pm

yes and our humour is just as bad too. oops we've bungled the thread

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