Garden Railway Forum

I have a FB account and yes it does have loads of rubbish on it, but you can block it, and since getting interested in garden railways i now have more groups to look at on garden railways and the rubbish seems to stop coming. It seems the more you like and read certain groups i.e. Garden Railways Groups of any description the less you get to see the rubbish and yes it is easy to load photos and videos on there, on here i believe you have to go on youtube and then share it on here, can be a bit of a fuffle, but it’s not the end of the world.

i for one have learnt so much more on here then Facebook though. Happy Modelling.


Rod.

FWLR wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:58 am it is easy to load photos and videos on there, on here i believe you have to go on youtube and then share it on here,

Not strictly true, Rod. For video's yes and I agree that is a bit of a pain, but photos couldn't be simpler. If I wanted to add a photo to this post, I simply find it on my computer, drag&drop it onto this post, then hit the "Place inline" button. Simples! I've never understood why people insist on using Photobucket, Flickr, etc. to post pictures on here.

I agree Phillip with the photos, it is simplicity it self, maybe the easiest i have come across on forum’s, you can select quite a few photos at the same time, i did six i think all at once and took no time to load, but tried a video and it didn’t want to know, unless of course i load it up to youtube (that can take ages depending on file size) then load it on to here, which is straight forward enough though Phillip isn’t.

Happy Modelling Phillip.

Can we stop hijacking this thread please

Happy for banter in another topic.

To add videos from YouTube:

https://gardenrails.org/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=9208

If we allowed video uploads to the forum we would run out of space very quickly!

Very sorry Tom, i didn’t mean to hi-jack the thread, i was just replying to earlier post’s.

But i do think most youngsters now are maybe a bit put off by the thinking that it’s an old man’s/persons hobby, how to get them involved in the hobby, i think the 16mm association may have part of the answer by having a Family subscription at not a hefty price, that way the parent/grandparent can include them at steam ups, so getting them involved more.

Unfortunately on the videos i have seen of steam ups there are virtually no young people there.

ge_rik wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:50 pm

BCATRR wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:25 am Why isn’t Creosote sold anymore.

Elf n' safety

• Since 30 April 2003 retailers can no longer sell creosote and coal tar creosote wood preservatives to the general public in Great Britain
  Since 30 June 2003 general public can no longer use creosote and coal tar creosote wood preservatives in Great Britain

See - http://www.hse.gov.uk/biocides/copr/creosote.htm

Rik

But a visit to a friendly agricultural merchants can provide the illicit stuff, which is still allowed for agricultural purposes. No contradiction there - safe for use near stuff we eat, but not in your own back garden!

Lonsdaler wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:13 am

ge_rik wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:50 pm

BCATRR wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:25 am Why isn’t Creosote sold anymore.

Elf n' safety

• Since 30 April 2003 retailers can no longer sell creosote and coal tar creosote wood preservatives to the general public in Great Britain
  Since 30 June 2003 general public can no longer use creosote and coal tar creosote wood preservatives in Great Britain

See - http://www.hse.gov.uk/biocides/copr/creosote.htm

Rik

But a visit to a friendly agricultural merchants can provide the illicit stuff, which is still allowed for agricultural purposes. No contradiction there - safe for use near stuff we eat, but not in your own back garden!

That seems really ridiculous Phil, can use it near food, but not in the garden

The diktat from "the safety elves" seems to be more of response to a perceived operator stupidity problem than any real risk from creosote itself. I would imagine it carries the same very slight cancer risk as every other petroleum derivative, but then, you should not be getting washed in the stuff. My grandfather's approach was that creosote was safe enough if (a) you kept it off your skin, and (b) did not drink it. The second comment was also a tongue in cheek reference to how I like my coffee!

The main argument against the creosote ban is that the replacements are total rubbish!

Cheers,
Peter in Va

The main argument against the creosote ban is that the replacements are total rubbish!

As are a good many other substitutes, in the name of "health and safety".
Grant.

IrishPeter wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:52 pm My grandfather's approach was that creosote was safe enough if (a) you kept it off your skin, and (b) did not drink it. The second comment was also a tongue in cheek reference to how I like my coffee!

The main argument against the creosote ban is that the replacements are total rubbish!

Cheers,
Peter in Va

Agree with you there Peter, the replacements are rubbish and flipping expensive too. The keeping it of your skin is true too, when i was a kid, my Father made what was called interwoven fencing then, (fence panels now). I had the unenviable job of spraying the stuff on to the panels and posts, although i had a mask on, i didn’t wear goggles so my eyes were stinging like crazy, lesson learnt once......

Having worked with sleepers most of my life and coated fences across three counties, all with the minimal of use of PPE, I can honestly say that I've never gone rusty!

Nor I....

Back to the FBGR.

Here is the latest, with the replaced section of decking backed up by the re-painted factory background and the loco shed replaced (in a slightly revised location / orientation) with track going into same.
Now we can start to fill in the places round the shed and tracks.

For the next area of timber decking which has had some of its supports rot away, we are considering rebuilding using mostly plastic of some form, mainly to prevent further extended discussion on the merits and availability of creosote.

JOhn

Sorry about that John, looking good though, where did you get your engine shed from, it’s great.

That's a nice tidy workman-like job John, well done. Should last a good few years by the look of it.

Andrew

Without creosote?
(Ducks and runs for cover)
Seriously though. Nice looking job that, scratch built in assume?

The loco shed is POLA 330911, and one of the earliest items bought for the railway, back in 2008 I think, when all I was scratch building was rolling stock. It is currently being advertised as available from Top Slots n Trains at £210 reduced down to £173. I don’t think we would have paid anything like this price. The parts can be assembled to form various permutations

It has stood up to being moved a few times, but the sticking-out-bits, like chimneys and roof vents have been knocked off. Re-gluing of the roof has also had to be carried out more than once. At one time a local cat used to sleep on the roof.

JOhn

Thanks John, that’s good to know, it’s resin then assume. I know Darren very well at Topslots, i bought all of my Unitrack stuff from him when i converted from Peco track to Kato.

Start to tidy up round the Loco Shed, which had been repositioned slightly, with some filler boards.

I have tried to give the grass a bit more texture, so have used scouring pads and string (twine), suitably painted and varnished.

I have not used this before, so we will have to see how well this weathers.
JOhn

Looks great John.