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Wilmington Light Railway

Post by WLR_CD » Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:23 pm

I have been kicking around ideas for a garden line for a few years now. During that time, various purchases have accumulated a large amount of track, a stack of steel roofing sheets and lengths of Filcris recycled plastic timbers in readiness. I will use this thread to document progress as and when it happens, but initially to bring it up to date.

Back in 2017 we were having a new driveway installed, so we got them to continue up both sides of the house, which started to open up this side into a useful space. We had this bit of 'No man's land' down one side of the house, which as you can see, have done nothing useful with it!

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This soon cleared out to reveal a long triangle space to the left, one foot wide at the tip, forty feet along widens out to about three feet.

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Luckily our neighbours had their fence replaced, this gave me a good excuse to remove some of the shrubbery, but not all.

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With this as a start point, a basic track layout idea was penciled out. This triangle forms Stage 1, with Stages 2, 3, 4 and 5 to follow, this then will give an out and back run of just over 300 feet. An emphasis of the line will be for operation although there will be a roundy roundy bit in front of the main workshop when just sitting back and watching trains go by is required. Later on the plan evolves a little as thoughts change.

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Post by ge_rik » Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:16 am

Looks like an interesting layout which makes good use of the space.

FWIW, my temptation would be to construct Stage 4 first. Then you can have something running round and round while you do other things in the garden. But there might be logistical reasons for starting down by the house.

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PS Also, that section is closest to the workshop so handy for use as a test track
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Post by philipy » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:16 am

Interesting and ambitious in equal measure!

FWIW, my only comment would be that removable bridges end up being a pain, if not worse! I can see why you need it, but my inclination would be to raise the garden ( ramps or steps) and put in a level crossing that can be walked on. I ended up having to do that with mine. :lol:
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Post by WLR_CD » Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:00 pm

Thank you for the comments.
More will become clear as I get the thread up to date. This will slow/stop for a while because I am between cataract procedures and seeing computer screens is not easy.

The reason for starting at Stage 1 is because the domestic planning authorities were only aware of stages 1-3!

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Post by ge_rik » Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:12 pm

WLR_CD wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:00 pm The reason for starting at Stage 1 is because the domestic planning authorities were only aware of stages 1-3!

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It now all makes sense ...😉😁

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Post by Phil.P » Thu Jan 09, 2025 5:57 pm

Your secret is safe with us..

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Post by Trevor Thompson » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:20 pm

I like your plan! I agree that removable bridges are not the ideal solution - but sometimes they are the only option.

I think that you are correct to start at stage 1. In my case the domestic authority would have thrown a wobbly if she had known where I was going with my railway - but as it progressed she became more and more supportive. I would bank on that happening for you!

I look forward to seeing this progress.

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Post by Old Man Aaron » Sun Jan 12, 2025 1:58 am

An ambitious plan. Wishing you all the best and looking forward to seeing it progress. :thumbleft:
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Post by WLR_CD » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:12 pm

Now with cataracts done and some new, very clear vision, I can now see a computer screen, so on with the railway build.

My railway is not so much a garden railway but a more a model railway in the garden. As much as I like the ground level lines, for me that was not going to work, for a start, my garden is very flat. My line has a focus on operation rather than just running round and round. I have visited a number of garden railways and did not the like the down on your hands and knees to couple and uncouple etc. Plus with advancing years, I needed to future proof the line for comfortable operation.

Track level is 29–34 inches above ground, depending on where you are along the line. The line is supported by metal in one way or another, I did not want to use timber. It was also helped by the fact I got a lot of metal for little or no money, always a great help.

Stage 1 was mainly supported by old greenhouse staging, donated from my Dad's old greenhouses. To support this, one side of legs sits on block paving, the other side sits on cast concrete bases.

Here is a cast block and shuttering for the next block.

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A few days later there appeared some more cast blocks and the start of the greenhouse staging being put in place.

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Then later, then rest of the staging. A lot of this I was making up as I went along!

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I ran out of staging before getting to the tip of the triangle, fortunately there are some concrete posts leftover from the netting frame that used to be there, so I welded up some steel angle support brackets which are then bolted to the posts. You will see I am not the greatest welder but it does for this project. The very tip is supported by a piece of Dexion screwed to the gate post.

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This then enabled me to bolt on some front and back Dexion angle which will support the upturned roofing sheet. The upturned roofing sheet forms the main railway support structure, giving a flat, rigid and light surface support.

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The roofing sheet was cut with a metal cutting disk in an angle grinder, this job is best done when the neighbours have gone out!

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The staging has various tops and slightly different leg heights, so the legs were all cut to the same height rather than use different size packing pieces. The tops will give extra support to the roofing sheets.

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This shows how the track will be laid and how it helps align up track of different construction. I have a mix of hand built wooden sleeper track, Peco and Tenmille plastic sleeper track, I bought batches of track when they came up for sale at the right price over many years, hence the variety, yes it would be nice to have all of one type but it is just how it happened. As you will see in this picture, with the roofing sheet used upside down it gives large flat areas to support the track and small drainage gulleys to take away the rain water.

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When covered with loose ballast it becomes harder to tell the various types of track apart. Keeping the ballast loose makes it easier to make changes to track layout if required at a later date. Although this method changed later in the build as things evolved.

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Here, most of the roofing sheet has been cut and placed in position. The foreground bit is just under 18 inches wide with another 6 foot behind the camera, while at the far end it goes out to just under 3.5 feet wide, the tree is about 40 feet away from this point.

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This is the far end where the line turns through 90 degrees to go along the fence for about 18 feet past the greenhouse then will do a 90 degree left past the end of the greenhouse and work it ways up the garden. Luckily, here there were more redundant concrete posts to which I bolted brackets made from Dexion. The curved pieces of ply are templates of 5 foot radius so I can check out alignments as the line progresses. It is here I may have to build a large curved point, this is where the main line divides before approaching the goods yard and station.

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I was surprised to get to do the greenhouse section because I had run out of Dexion. My supply was the old layout supports of a large loft layout I built with my Dad over 40 years ago, which Dad kept in his shed when the layout was broken up. Some other bits were given to me by my friend Ken, who had some spare. So I went onto Ebay to get some more, only to be shocked at the prices for this stuff now :(

While on Facebook I had a look on the Market Place section and searched Dexion, up came a secondhand job lot of 275 feet for £25, only problem it was over 80 miles away, luckily Ken was going to be within 15 miles from the location while on a business trip, so he was able to collect it in his truck. When he came back I was pleasantly surprised that not only was it the Dexion angle, there were over 50 of the 90 degree corner plates and 20 of the feet along with a large bucket of the correct size nuts and bolts.

This is the angle that I bought, the longest lengths are 10 feet.

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Post by ge_rik » Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:45 am

Wow! You've certainly made a quick and determined start. Good to see clever re-use of materials. It shouldn't be long before the first trains start running.

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Post by gilfachphil » Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:55 am

Very impressive.

Working at table height makes life much simpler when it comes to running trains and you need to get your eye down to track level.

If the framework is strong enough to take the weight you could make the roofing sheet disappear under more ballast material.

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Post by WLR_CD » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:55 pm

Thank you for the kind comments.

A few mates popped round and we roughed out a track plan. This changed later in the build.

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With the good weather at the time (July 2018), advantage was taken of this, track was cut, pre curved and positioned to match.

A rail bender is a very useful tool, the downside of secondhand track is the slight difficulty removing the sleeper sections, natural weathering puts a coating on the rail and gives resistance to easy sliding off of the sleepers. Time was spent easing off the sleepers in smaller blocks and then cleaning the rail up to make refitting the sleepers a lot easier. A later found spraying with WD40 is a great help with taking track apart.

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I knocked up a couple of track spacing jigs from some scrap wood, these give a track spacing of six inches which gives ample clearance for the widest stock.

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Here I am curving the rails which lead into the engine shed area from the kick back siding.

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I use a small mirror to help with eying the curves and checking track flow, this also enables views along the track that in some instances may not be physically possible to get a normal view.

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Checked again with one rail forming half track, quite happy with the flow of the track here now.

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This shows the curved track from the other end and the location of the turntable, which will be moved slightly, after subsequent laying of the goods yard gave more spare room than originally expected.

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A view from the station end. I cannot get the loop as aligned as I would like yet until the main line is fixed down, then I can trim the loop to fit better. With the very hot weather I need to let the track cool and settle down to a more normal state, then check rail gaps.

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Now we are half way along the station platforms with the bay platform siding on the left, behind that is the kick back siding to the engine shed, the kick back siding will also be used as a head shunt for the goods yard.

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Here we are at the goods yard end, the line on the far left is the main line, next to that is a passing/holding loop for the main line, to the right of that is a goods yard loop which at the camera end leads to the goods shed, the loop itself is to receive a goods train for marshalling and the same road for assembling a goods train. To the far right are three sidings, currently not at their full length, for marshalling the wagons.

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It was a good excuse to run a loco over the whole track, pleased to say it ran well. Next time I will get some stock out and try some train movements.

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Post by ge_rik » Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:04 pm

Just a thought. If you moved the platform roads nearer to the front of the baseboard, you could have the platform at the rear with half relief station buildings against the fence.

But of course, given your wealth of experience, you might have another cunning plan.

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Post by WLR_CD » Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:40 pm

ge_rik wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:04 pm Just a thought. If you moved the platform roads nearer to the front of the baseboard, you could have the platform at the rear with half relief station buildings against the fence.

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Interesting you should say that Rik, all will become clear soon.

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Post by WLR_CD » Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:01 pm

I have sketched in the proposed rough positions for a goods shed and a cattle dock. These changed later on.

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Platforms, signal box, turntable and engine shed now make an appearance, again some of this changes later.

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I had a package arrive, 16 x 5m lengths of UPVC architrave trim, 6mm x 90mm in profile, this will form the front and back edges of the track bed. The amount is more than I need, but over a certain amount delivery was free, I had an amount to pay anyway, so had the extra as the trim, I am sure I will find a use for it, platforms sprang to mind!
I bought this in white, a decision I was later to regret!

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It was a bit unwieldy to pick up and manoeuvre on my own, but various blocks clamped to the layout helped with guiding and holding in place while fixing holes were drilled and nuts and bolts added. The blocks were cut also as height guides for the positioning of the trim, it purpose is really only to stop the ballast falling off the edge and to hide the Dexion framework from view.

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Finishes it off rather neatly, although maybe I should have paid extra and gone for brown (or black), only time will tell (it did). If all else fails I can always spray it another colour ( I obviously could see to the future!).

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A view looking in the other direction. The train of coaches in the foreground is seven feet long, this will be the standard for the longest train plus loco for the line.

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Next job is to cut some hardwood strips for the track to be fixed to, these will also need to be dipped in creosote. A couple of years ago my Mum had the hardwood windows replaced in her bungalow, I asked the window fitter to leave the timber of the frames to one side and I will collect them. Since then a friend of mine has also given me his hardwood frames that were replaced, the window fitter also came up with some larger bits when he replaced patio doors. I check them all for nails and screws, then true them up with a thicknesser planer before putting them through a bench saw.

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I need to source something to hide the underside, originally I came across someone on FB Marketplace selling job lots of 100 x two foot lengths of shiplap for £45, I should have grabbed them while I could, a few days later they had gone, you snooze you lose!

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Post by WLR_CD » Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:05 pm

I have cut up lots of hardwood into 10mm x 10mm strips, these will be dipped in creosote and used for the track supports.

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Had a result with the shiplap, the seller on FB had another batch, a different size, but enough to make all the panels needed. So I had a session painting this before assembly, this way if the timber shrinks it won't show an unpainted strip.

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A couple of days in the workshop had all the panels made, they just hook onto the staging framework underneath using upside down double picture hooks, but I now need to fit some grab handles so it is easier to lift out individual panels, when butted up there is nothing to grip, doh! At least it neatens up the support structure. I have also now restored the bench in the photo.

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Post by Old Man Aaron » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:40 am

Some real space for shunting there. :thumbleft:
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Post by WLR_CD » Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:04 am

Well, the track support timbers I cut up were not enough, so had to do some more and creosote.

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I have started screwing down the battening and fixing the track to said battening.

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I bought some small size grit which maybe a bit too red, Jury is out on this one (it got changed later in the build), but impatience forced me to try some out. What was apparent is how much gets swallowed up by the channels, luckily I had some bags of larger stone which for further along the line I pre-filled with this to take up some of the volume.

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What is interesting is the huge reduction in running noise when trains pass over the ballasted section.

Here I have got as far as the goods yard and engine shed headshunt. In the background is the bay platform road.

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Looking in the other direction the main line and loop are now done as far as they can be until I get some more roof cladding sheet. The row of points forming the goods yard are now being done.

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Looking back along the whole of this section. The curved plywood templates is where originally thoughts were for a custom built set of two curved points, but by moving a crossover further away from the camera and the initial entry point to this section now moved off to the bottom left of the photograph I can get away with two standard points, which made more sense considering I have them in stock. The plank of wood next to the radio is representing the cattle dock, the two sidings to the left have been shortened, the long siding in the middle will now curve and be extended, this is where the goods shed will be located. Now I will have some space around the goods shed for approach roads and vehicles.

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I have been thinking about using strips of Cellotex foam to fill up some of the channels, but then I remembered I had a cubic yard of sand ballast at the end of the garden leftover from an over order when building a shed base!

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Post by ge_rik » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:06 pm

WLR_CD wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:40 pm
ge_rik wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:04 pm Just a thought. If you moved the platform roads nearer to the front of the baseboard, you could have the platform at the rear with half relief station buildings against the fence.

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Interesting you should say that Rik, all will become clear soon.

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So indeed there is a cunning plan....... 8)

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Post by WLR_CD » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:16 pm

In the end I went for a combination of foam infills, covered with a base layer of sand, topped off with ballast stones.

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Work has started on the station platforms, this meant a session on the bench saw cutting platform supports and planking strips for the platform surface from old hardwood window frames.

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Cutting hardwood does produce a lot of dust! I must get around to fitting up the dust extractor.

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I made up a platform gauge for setting the faces and board planking at the correct distance.

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All of the platform support work in position, way over engineered but there is method in my madness, I think!

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In the meantime some more steel roofing sheet has arrived, which means a start of the greenhouse curve can start.

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The Dexion framework was put up in the usual way.

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I had run out of cutting disks for the steel sheet so tried some of these disks, they are great, cuts the sheet like a hot knife through butter, better than the ones I was using.

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It did not take long to round the curve and finish the straight.

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A start has been made on the next bend round the back of the greenhouse, you can just make out the route of the mainline by the two blue lines. The leg at the end is only temporary, it will be replaced by a scaffold pole concreted into the ground which will support one end of the enclosed bridge that will be here (oh no it won't!), I just need to take down the washing line pole we have not used in 11 years to make the scaffold support, but that work is on hold, we are dog sitting my daughter's two Staffs this week and they get into everything, so concreting is not an option at the moment.

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I have run out of timber track support strips, so need to cut some more of those.

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