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IP/Essel/PMR Jessie

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:07 pm
by Big Jim
I acquired bits of an unbuilt Jessie a while back.
The main body panels, chassis side and a few castings were present. No motor or wheels etc.
After pricing up the cost of wheels, gears, motor, bushes etc. It seemed that the cheaper way to go was to purchase a new chassis from Essel.
I think with a bit of work it should turn out to be a nice powerful engine.
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The bits as arrived
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Essel Chassis
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The Essel chassis is about 3/4' too short but this should not be a problem to hide. I have to say the hole positioning on the body leave a lot to be desired.

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:08 pm
by Joe
Looks stirdy , are you going to base it on a prototype? And add radio control? I have a Andel models ffion and one invaluable feature is being able to plug a wire into the cab from the mains to charge it without having to take the body off etc. If you wanted to do that this is the best opertunity you may also want to add a soundcard. Good luck anyway and I'm sure it will prove a good diesle , merry Christmas too 😀

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:17 am
by Big Jim
Merry Christmas to you too Joe.
It won't be based on any prototype it will just be a large diesel. I will fit sound and RC and it will be rechargeable, well that is the idea. One thing I want to do is try and avoid the 'Meccano' look so the m3 screws holding it all together will need to be hidden.

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:45 am
by steamie1
proper job! Ansome!

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 12:47 pm
by Joe
Big Jim:106717 wrote:Merry Christmas to you too Joe.
It won't be based on any prototype it will just be a large diesel. I will fit sound and RC  and it will be rechargeable, well that is the idea. One thing I want to do is try and avoid the 'Meccano' look so the m3 screws holding it all together will need to be hidden.
Ok, sounds good, good luck and when you've fitted it could you let me know what sound card you used please
Cheers
Joe

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:05 pm
by Big Jim
Got the body screwed together. I don't know if mine was a Friday afternoon special but the various body holes don't line up at all well.

I am still not sure about this loco. I know they can build up into nice models but it still seems a little too 'mamod' to me with all the screw heads. The ones on the bonnet should not be too hard to hide, but the roof ones are going to be a nuisance, I could spot weld the roof on but that would cause problems with maintenance.

The chassis is great but I don't know if the wheel base is too small for the loco.

Do I carry on with the build or just build a completely new loco on the chassis?

Anyway the picture shows how far the build has got, with various castings placed on the engine to see what it looks like.
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:26 pm
by Peter Butler
Persevere Jim!  I believe my loco is from the same stable.... Jessica, I think?
When doing the build I also hated the look of the screw heads so they had to go!
For the roof I used countersunk bolts into the steel and covered the surface with a thin Plasticard skin and a rain strip to hide the height difference.  You can't tell!  The roof can be held in place with nuts inside the cab which can be removed if required.

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The bonnet has a plasticard strip attached to the bottom edge and rivets attached.  This is a lift-0ff section to access the batteries and speed controller if I need to.

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I am pleased with the way this has turned out and it is worth the effort.

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Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:59 pm
by Big Jim
Thanks Peter.
I have done a little more work on the engine. It does seem to be growing on me.
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I have glued some of the castings in position and made up a few hatch covers from plastic with Cambrian bolt heads cemented on.

If any one can suggest how the cab controls might be set up on a loco like this, or provide pictures I would be most grateful.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:58 am
by philipy
Jim,
I'm away at the mo, so dont have the link to hand, but on the VOR webste there are some interior cab pics of the baguley, which might give you a clue in general terms.
Philip

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:03 am
by Big Jim
Thanks I'll look them up.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:24 am
by ge_rik
I opted for pop rivets for the cab roof on my Jessie. Not entirely invisible but less obtrusive than the bolts

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Rik

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:29 am
by ge_rik
BTW Peter. Did you add your own running plates to the sides of your Jessie/Emma? My version was without running plates (but it was an early model). I must say the running plates do complement her appearance nicely.

Rik

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:32 am
by Peter Butler
Hi Rik, I have had to check my pictures to see what I did to my loco, and yes, I did add running plates either side made of Plasticard (of course!) and topped with aluminium expanded metal to form a non-slip surface.

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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:18 pm
by sstjc
Jim
You asked about cab controls.... I can't provide any info for this but in the absence of anything from anyone else I do have some pictures, which hopefully will appear below, of a roughly similar Billard (I think ?) from a line in Northern France just on the offchance it may help.
Barry

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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:00 pm
by Big Jim
Thankyou very much that's just the ticket.

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:33 pm
by tom_tom_go
That it looking great, well done.

I need to start using Plastikard, it looks to be very versatile.

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:34 pm
by Big Jim
A little bit of progress. The body has been detailed with door castings and access panels made of plastic with Cambrian bolt heads. The body bolt holes have been counter sunk and will be covered with little panels held in place with 'Smurf Poo' (blutac) this will allow ir to be dismantled when something goes 'pouf' and lets the magic smoke out.
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The chassis has been detailed. I will be fitting springs when I get around to making them.

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The rear panel has been fabricated and spectacles have been made from microstrip.

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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:50 pm
by Peter Butler
Good progress Jim, let me know when you are ready for a test run so you can see how well it runs.

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:09 pm
by Big Jim
Will do Peter,
It might be a few months as the degree course has started again with yet more essays. I haven't banned myself from the shed yet though!

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:14 pm
by Big Al
It's a good idea to counter sink the holes and fit the roof with flush fitting screws.


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