IP roundhouse 3 compartment coaches

ptlrcecil · Post by **ptlrcecil** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:37 am

I usally do mine either black or a stained matt dye, not varnish. The dye gives it a less than new walked on feel rather tahn a shiny ex works look.

andysleigh · Post by **andysleigh** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:30 pm

one thing that i have noticed that worrys me, is-
is the width of the floor ment to be wider than the width of the bottom of the end pannel....

the floor is 103 mm wide

the end panel is 101 mm wide

pauly · Post by **pauly** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:58 pm

ip do fantastic loco kits and wagon kits but they dont seem to have got the hang of making coach kits yet.

ptlrcecil · Post by **ptlrcecil** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:14 pm

andysleigh wrote:one thing that i have noticed that worrys me, is-
is the width of the floor ment to be wider than the width of the bottom of the end pannel....

the floor is 103 mm wide

the end panel is 101 mm wide

Simple answer, No
I had the same problem with mine and unless you take a couple of mm's of you cant bend the sides round to fit the ends.

SillyBilly · Post by **SillyBilly** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:21 pm

pauly wrote:ip do fantastic loco kits and wagon kits but they dont seem to have got the hang of making coach kits yet.

Yes they have, laalratty has commented on the VoR Laser Cut brakevan and there's a review of the bug boxes in Garden Rail (I'm hoping to get some of these soon so shall tell you my opinion also).

ptlrcecil · Post by **ptlrcecil** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:40 pm

Well then they just need to get their act together with the roundhouse range then.

SillyBilly · Post by **SillyBilly** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:50 pm

I wouldn't be suprised if they switched production over too laser for everything, mustbe so much easier.

laalratty · Post by **laalratty** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:24 pm

Hate to say it Andy, but your only choice is going to be a lot of hard sanding unless you are good with a jig saw or have a power sander
I can imagine that soon all IP kit floors will end up being laser cut but with the sides still routed

andysleigh · Post by **andysleigh** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:20 pm

bloody kits.

I know i should have checked everything before i built it, but i am the kind of person who justs wants to get it made.

The amoutn of problems with the kit is anoying.
Including the major warpage of the ends.
I dont think theres any chance of a refund on the one i have painted, but maybe with the one still in the bag, if its the same.

SillyBilly · Post by **SillyBilly** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:35 pm

laalratty wrote:your only choice is going to be a lot of hard sanding unless you are good with a jig saw or have a power sander

Or plane it!

andysleigh · Post by **andysleigh** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:53 pm

some warpage photos.

floor from the 2nd kit-

pauly · Post by **pauly** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:03 pm

I had the same problem when I built my own ip coach.

the end panels where also much to wide for the floor!
right pain if they started using laser cutting in their RH range Id buy them.

laalratty · Post by **laalratty** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:04 pm

Wow, that was much worse than i've had from any other IP kit, that warping looks pretty awful

mhlr · Post by **mhlr** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:19 pm

Blimey, you really have had bad luck with IP Engineering...

alan2525 · Post by **alan2525** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:57 pm

MuzTrem wrote:I don't understand why more manufacturers don't design their kits with removable roofs in mind.

The kits are all really built to a price, ideally you need to add a lot more strip wood, nicer detail castings, ribs for a removeable roof, stretchers to reinforce the roof, a nice rolled aluminium or brass roof. The list could go on and on...and then the kits wind up costing a fortune! If you do all those additions yourself the cost gets spread out so it's manageable.

alan2525 · Post by **alan2525** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:03 am

andysleigh wrote:some warpage photos.

You could try putting the end in the microwave, with a piece of paper towel on top, putting it on for 15 seconds or so, the heat will soften the glue, you can then put the end between two sheets of paper on a flat surface with a large heavy weight on top. leave it for an hour or so. Thats a way you can form plywood into curves, but has never tried it for making curved bits flat again!

Make sure there's no metal on the ends though when you put in the microwave!

andysleigh · Post by **andysleigh** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:15 am

alan2525 wrote:You could try putting the end in the microwave, with a piece of paper towel on top, putting it on for 15 seconds or so, the heat will soften the glue, you can then put the end between two sheets of paper on a flat surface with a large heavy weight on top. leave it for an hour or so. Thats a way you can form plywood into curves, but has never tried it for making curved bits flat again!

Make sure there's no metal on the ends though when you put in the microwave!

funnily enough, i heard just that advice at the club meeting tonight, but that was about forming the roof.

I dont really want to remove the metal steps and parts from the end, everything is glued on, and mmay take some paint off.

SillyBilly · Post by **SillyBilly** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:26 pm

Ha, just read Mr Prior's comments on the e-group, Andy caused the warpage.

Why does no one ever read the instructions???

andysleigh · Post by **andysleigh** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:42 pm

SillyBilly wrote: Andy cause the warpage.

no i didnt.... i remeber having to clamp the ends down flat to stick the seats on

SillyBilly · Post by **SillyBilly** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:50 pm

Why didn't you follow the instructions then?

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