Swift Sixteen Brake

Peter L · Post by **Peter L** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:46 pm

http://www.swiftsixteen.com/productDeta ... oductID=82

MDLR · Post by **MDLR** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:23 pm

METHSSNIFFER · Post by **METHSSNIFFER** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:01 am

I would prefer the door knob to be below the frame of the window

JMORG · Post by **JMORG** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:51 pm

Prepare for a review shortly!

It's such an easy kit to make!

OLD_GUY · Post by **OLD_GUY** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:41 pm

JMORG:89640 wrote:Prepare for a review shortly!
It's such an easy kit to make!

But not easy to buy for me. My damn' credit card never works in this great online shop and I don't know why.

MDLR · Post by **MDLR** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:22 pm

OLD_GUY:89644 wrote:But not easy to buy for me. My damn' credit card never works in this great online shop and I don't know why.

Have you thought of registering your card with PayPal and then using PayPal to pay for it? Works for me (and you're not supplying card details to all & sundry - just to PayPal once).

SapperAnt · Post by **SapperAnt** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:35 pm

What curves will it take??

I'm looking for a new Brake Van since my current scratch built one hates Peco 38" radius points! ARGH. And this is a very very nice wee beesty indeed!

swiftsixteen · Post by **swiftsixteen** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:48 am

To be honest, I have no idea, it's just a standard 4 wheel van. I'd be surprised if it couldn't handle anything you could pull it around. We are using some really nice stainless steel wheels now with very good rounded flanges. The 45mm flanges are larger to handle LGB track. This should help greatly with tight curves.

JMORG · Post by **JMORG** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:39 am

Well it should do 2'6", considering pretty much EVERY 4w wagon could, and I dare anybody to go less then that (without using mamod stuff!)

Catweasel · Post by **Catweasel** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:10 am

I'm managing to get round 18" on my indoor line,with small 4 wheel stock. Bricks loco, Hunslets, Rustons etc. No problem, just very slowly.
I'm not using Peco track. Code 100 on copperclad sleepers.

AFGadd · Post by **AFGadd** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:46 am

Got an AnDel C&M 4w Brake Van and it struggles a bit on my 2'6" reverse curves. But it does have quite a long wheelbase.
Oddly enough, I've just bought a pair of SwiftSixteen Arch Bar Bogies to put underneath it...

JMORG · Post by **JMORG** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:49 pm

I have just finished the Tarp wagon (pictures soon don't worry), so I will test it out on the portable track this weekend (it has 2'6" radii).
The wheel base is pretty much identical to the Van.

OLD_GUY · Post by **OLD_GUY** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:53 pm

MDLR:89692 wrote:
OLD_GUY:89644 wrote:But not easy to buy for me. My damn' credit card never works in this great online shop and I don't know why.
Have you thought of registering your card with PayPal and then using PayPal to pay for it? Works for me (and you're not supplying card details to all & sundry - just to PayPal once).

I'm thinking about it but my card works fine in a lot of online shops...

SapperAnt · Post by **SapperAnt** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:21 pm

Thanks JMORG

My long wheelbase vans dont like the reverse curves on the 2' 6" radius points especially. They prefer to mount the frogs or the check rails or just get stuck.........grumble.

JMORG · Post by **JMORG** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:10 pm

Well I had the wagon running earlier, and it went round the curves with ease! So atleast 2'6" radii...

SapperAnt · Post by **SapperAnt** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:02 am

Thanks

The Brake Van I have derails on the reverse curve where two points are joined together, so a left turn and then a right turn in very pretty much no space at all.

Which is very, very annoying.

So this Swift Sixteen one might come up trumps :-)

IrishPeter · Post by **IrishPeter** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:14 pm

Sounds like a case of 'your sins will find you out' to me as pretty much anything four wheeled with a long wheelbase is going to derail in that circumstance. Short wheelbase 4-wheelers and bogie stock should be OK provided there is no buffer interlock.

I discovered the hard way about the reverse curve thing and now put 9" to a foot a straight track between reverse curves. This has succssfully eliminated most derailments.

Cheers,
Peter in AZ

SapperAnt · Post by **SapperAnt** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:29 pm

Having repeatedly run my long wheelbase four wheelers over the reverse curves where two pairs of points meet I have noticed that on the Brake Van one wheelset mounts the check rail, runs along the top of the check rails and then drops back down.

On the Van (modelled on a Southwold Railway prototype) it just locks up. However I think that might be out of gauge (Binnie curly spoked wheels on steel axles. I am not entirely sure its 100% in gauge. Steel wheels and new axle boxes etc from IP should/may cure that.

The other van which runs on an identical chassis (same wheel centres/spacing) runs absolutely fine.

All three vans were made to a common rod on the same chassis.
One runs perfectly.

And, in fact, the IP (I think) van Ive just completed has the same wheelbase as the Brakevan which mounts the check rails and that runs fine.

HALP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

swiftsixteen · Post by **swiftsixteen** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:35 pm

Sounds like a flange/back to back problem ?

IrishPeter · Post by **IrishPeter** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:45 pm

Wot Swift Sixteen said...

It does indeed sound like a wheel back-to-back problem. If the points are home made it might be worth checking the flangeways past the check rails.

Cheers,
Peter in AZ

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