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Dan's Rob roy rebuild

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:46 pm
by DLRdan
Back in Febuary I bought a slightly tired looking 3.5" gauge Rob Roy to Martin Evans popular design. The plan was to run it for a couple of years then repaint it. Unfortunatly thing didn't quite work out so I have decided to go for it. Yesterday afternoon was spent breaking it down into large lumps with a few suprises.

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The chassis as expected is pretty tired, there isnt a huge amount of wear but there is lots of play where things have worked loose or were badly machined to begin with. This is where the problems with the running lie and will be rebuilt fully with new axle boxes for a start.

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Next up is the boiler. Professionaly made to begin with this is still in really good condition if a little mucky. The boiler fittings are not that great so I am going to make or buy new ones along with making a new manifold which will give the option of adding an injector later. Incidentally, if any one knows of a boiler make with the initials TVM i would be interested.

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Finaly are the tanks and body work. I have not looked too closely at these just yet other to confirm a suspicion that the tank insides are infact glued in. There handpump lives in one of these tanks, while working fine it is small for the boiler so intend to replace it with something larger. The running boards have rusted to the point of non return so new ones will be made. On the under side of one though the builder has scratched his name into the paint. If you cant make it out it reads : John Lewis Jones Reed ESQ.          Built between 1977 and 1980 AD.

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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:49 pm
by sstjc
Yes !

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:10 pm
by Lner fan Sam
I would be as I own a larger scale loco. :D

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:31 pm
by Dr. Bond of the DVLR
Great looking project on your hands Dan!

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:59 pm
by DLRdan
Bit more progresss today. removed the wheels and valve gear from the frames from the frames.

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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:46 pm
by DLRdan
Last day of taking things apart today which did have a rather nasty suprise.

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As can be seen below there is a peice missing from one of the ports. This is where one of the steam passage ways was drilled at the wrong angle and broke into the valve face. The plan is to tap the hole and tread a piece of bar into it to make the port the correct length.

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Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:14 pm
by laurence703
ahh! I see what you mean now! yeah that sounds like a good solution :)

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:28 pm
by Sir haydn
Have you not finished this yet? :lol:

Is the boiler in good condition? Are you going to replace any of the fittings while its in bits?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:18 pm
by LnBmad
It's the age old one of measure it a million times and then only drill your steam ways when your 99.9% certain it's right! Good luck!

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:58 pm
by DLRdan
Boiler looks in good condition. It hasnt been used that much, there are still machining marks on the valves. I am planning on replacing the fittings, they are home made and are soft soldered together.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:44 pm
by Lner fan Sam
Would love to do a overhaul like this on my electric engine however the last owner built it so it couldn't be took apart... :(

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:32 pm
by DLRdan
Everything comes apart some how, have you got any pics ?

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:42 pm
by DolwyddelanLightRail
DLRdan:85223 wrote:Everything comes apart some how, have you got any pics ?
If in doubt, give it a clout! And if that doesn't work you aren't using a big enough hammer :lol:

Hat, coat....

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:29 pm
by Lner fan Sam
When do you see a loco that has the motion riveted to the wheels? :shock:

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:37 pm
by laurence703
Ah well the solution is simple... drill the rivets out and replace with bolts

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:17 pm
by DLRdan
Progress from the past couple of days. Ive removed the piant from the cab roof, chimney and cleading and plugged the hole in the cylinder. The paint also come so I painted the dome as a test. Today I spent about an hour chipping away at what i think is decorators caulking on the side tank, turns out it wasnt just on the outside. Those with a nervous disposition look way now.



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Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:20 pm
by LnBmad
Holy *$!%!!!! What did they do?!? How was this expected to last?!? Dare I dream how much was sucked through the plumbing?!?

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:34 pm
by williamfj
Good heavens! :shock:

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:49 pm
by Lner fan Sam
Good god man!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:08 pm
by Sir haydn
Do you want some big number '1's for the side tanks?

Seriously though, after the rebuild i think your going to instantly see improvment in running