Time to build a railway...but where?
- Old Man Aaron
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
Think I'll have to pinch that cutaway idea, Peter..
Greame's explanation, about 2/3 down the first page of my thread, is worth many words.
Greame's explanation, about 2/3 down the first page of my thread, is worth many words.
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Aaron - Scum Class Works
Aaron - Scum Class Works
- Peter Butler
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
Many thanks for the link Aaron, I had forgotten about your build description despite posting comments myself! I have read it through and found it most interesting. Your kit varies considerably to the one I have, although there may have been a crossover period in manufacture when parts suitable for either were included, or omitted (such as mine)? This can make it confusing as the video by Peter describes only the earlier version, however, I have now managed to get this far as described above.
Interesting to see the positioning if your charge socket (I have placed my on/off switch there), which explains your comment about the cutaway in the control panel, it does hide all that wiring but can be removed for access with two screws from the front (hidden inside the bonnet)...
Clearly your posts show an engineering background with the emphasis on materials and fixings. Mine is very much aesthetic in comparison.
The quartering of the cranks is something I hadn't given much thought about as Peter's video gives little indication of the problems you encountered. Meanwhile I will complete as much as possible with the remainder of cab fittings and driver figure, when he arrives.
Interesting to see the positioning if your charge socket (I have placed my on/off switch there), which explains your comment about the cutaway in the control panel, it does hide all that wiring but can be removed for access with two screws from the front (hidden inside the bonnet)...
Clearly your posts show an engineering background with the emphasis on materials and fixings. Mine is very much aesthetic in comparison.
The quartering of the cranks is something I hadn't given much thought about as Peter's video gives little indication of the problems you encountered. Meanwhile I will complete as much as possible with the remainder of cab fittings and driver figure, when he arrives.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
My driver figure arrived yesterday from David Clavey Models and he fits perfectly. I like David's figures very much; the ones I have used appear to be cast resin and feel solid, so show no printing lines at all. The detail is good and the poses look natural. I prefer to buy them in grey primer and paint with acrylics. This one has a poseable head so he can face either direction....
The cab has to be fixed to the chassis by two bolts at the rear, however, one is obscured by the gear selector frame which I have now managed to make removable by adding two magnets set into the frame base and gluing a thin metal plate to the cab floor....
This works well and holds the frame securely.
The cab has to be fixed to the chassis by two bolts at the rear, however, one is obscured by the gear selector frame which I have now managed to make removable by adding two magnets set into the frame base and gluing a thin metal plate to the cab floor....
This works well and holds the frame securely.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
Great idea that Peter, the cab is looking good too.
ROD
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
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Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
Has do i.....
ROD
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
Not much progress with the Baldwin whilst awaiting replacement worm and gear, which I managed to melt!
So... in the meantime how about another kit? Perhaps something completely different? I know, how about a Baldwin? Well, a Baldwin build of a Pechot-Bourdon design.
This is a superb 3D printed kit from Boot Lane Works at a very realistic price.
A daunting experience when first opening the box and seeing the amount of parts but just a few pages of instructions. However, everything is carefully packaged to separate the different units of construction, and everything fits perfectly with the usual amount of preparation for a perfect paint finish.
Once the pieces have been handled and dry-fitted, everything becomes self explanatory.
Interestingly, the bogies are fitted together using screws/bolts into pre-drilled holes, so can easily be stripped down should the need arise. I am expecting a book... Trains to the Trenches.... tomorrow, so I can see more detail of these locos in service.
So... in the meantime how about another kit? Perhaps something completely different? I know, how about a Baldwin? Well, a Baldwin build of a Pechot-Bourdon design.
This is a superb 3D printed kit from Boot Lane Works at a very realistic price.
A daunting experience when first opening the box and seeing the amount of parts but just a few pages of instructions. However, everything is carefully packaged to separate the different units of construction, and everything fits perfectly with the usual amount of preparation for a perfect paint finish.
Once the pieces have been handled and dry-fitted, everything becomes self explanatory.
Interestingly, the bogies are fitted together using screws/bolts into pre-drilled holes, so can easily be stripped down should the need arise. I am expecting a book... Trains to the Trenches.... tomorrow, so I can see more detail of these locos in service.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
I have found a number of pictures of this type on-line and they show great variety of detailing, so I can add lots to my model. This evening I decided to make a water lifter hose and support bracket as shown here....
Swift Sixteen make a 3D printed one, which I have fitted to my 4-6-0 Baldwin, but it is far too big for this tiny loco, so I used plastic tube, heated with a hot-air gun to form the shape, and wrapped around with fine thread....
The finished item is well worth the hours I spent on it....
Swift Sixteen make a 3D printed one, which I have fitted to my 4-6-0 Baldwin, but it is far too big for this tiny loco, so I used plastic tube, heated with a hot-air gun to form the shape, and wrapped around with fine thread....
The finished item is well worth the hours I spent on it....
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- Old Man Aaron
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
That driver is perfect!
Quite like the look of that 0-4-4-0T, makes me wonder about a kit for a Koppel Mallet..
Quite like the look of that 0-4-4-0T, makes me wonder about a kit for a Koppel Mallet..
Regards,
Aaron - Scum Class Works
Aaron - Scum Class Works
Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
I can see this build is going to be up to and may well exceed your usual level of detail, Peter.
Rik
Rik
Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
That’s for sure Rik. Knowing Peter he will exceed his potential and make it look easy, even though it may not be the case.
Peter, did you put a slightly larger piece of tubing on the end for the fixing screw. I can’t wait for this project to be finished and see what another brilliant remodel of the loco.
ROD
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
Rod, the end of the hose is made from a tiny wooden toggle from a craft shop. It just represents some sort of connector which I don't have any details of.... it will have to do!
Just for interest, the plastic tube has another tube inserted before I softened it with a heat gun. This allows it to bend without kinking.... Useful tip?
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The best things in life are free.... so why am I doing this?
Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
Thanks Peter, that is a great tip. I suppose that’s so it doesn’t collapse when you bend it to shape.
ROD
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
So-called 'spring' curtain wire (from the days of net curtains! Makes a good 'bending-spring' to support plastic tubes. - If the bore of your tube is big enough, obviously.
A non-modelling use, is about 15-18 inches of this, in a battery drill. - Great for clearing plug-holes of detritus.
(I only add this, as a time-saver, to allow more time for modelling).
Phil.P
A non-modelling use, is about 15-18 inches of this, in a battery drill. - Great for clearing plug-holes of detritus.
(I only add this, as a time-saver, to allow more time for modelling).
Phil.P
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
Good tip Phil.... that could be very useful.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
This is a great kit and I am enjoying every minute! The print quality is good but some preparation is still required. I use coarse wet and dry, followed by finer grades and a couple of filler primer sprays before top coat. This results in an even and smooth paint finish.
The cab is one unit with no seams, window and door surrounds printed separately. Each tank section is a three sided print with tank top added later....
The central firebox is just an arch with dome separately printed....
Cab fittings, other than firebox doors and regulators, are not supplied but I intend to add detail later.
The two power bogies make up well and feel sturdy....
The cab is one unit with no seams, window and door surrounds printed separately. Each tank section is a three sided print with tank top added later....
The central firebox is just an arch with dome separately printed....
Cab fittings, other than firebox doors and regulators, are not supplied but I intend to add detail later.
The two power bogies make up well and feel sturdy....
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
Those power bogies do look impressive Peter.
ROD
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
Thanks guys, the wheels are 'Binnie' eight-spoke standard ones with inserts supplied in the kit to press-fit using a vice to keep them even and fully located. They are such a perfect fit I doubt adhesive is required, but you know me.....
I have given everything a spray coat of black primer and dry brushed with silver and rust colours.
The instructions state the bogies are available in pairs for scratch builders, but are not priced.
The tanks and cab are screwed together (no adhesive here!) with eight nuts and bolts supplied. Rivet heads are provided but with no instructions except to indicate the presence of coal bunkers inside the tanks on the fireman's side. I also built up on top of the tanks for additional coal storage....
The cab interior has been hand painted before the firebox is dropped in place. Driver and fireman figures are from Bachmann and fit perfectly....
Cab fittings have been added just for interest... I have no idea how steam locomotives work so the driver will have to be inventive.
I have given everything a spray coat of black primer and dry brushed with silver and rust colours.
The instructions state the bogies are available in pairs for scratch builders, but are not priced.
The tanks and cab are screwed together (no adhesive here!) with eight nuts and bolts supplied. Rivet heads are provided but with no instructions except to indicate the presence of coal bunkers inside the tanks on the fireman's side. I also built up on top of the tanks for additional coal storage....
The cab interior has been hand painted before the firebox is dropped in place. Driver and fireman figures are from Bachmann and fit perfectly....
Cab fittings have been added just for interest... I have no idea how steam locomotives work so the driver will have to be inventive.
The best things in life are free.... so why am I doing this?
Re: Time to build a railway...but where?
The inside of the cab is really nice Peter. The driver will work it out I'am sure..
This kit seems to be for the more experienced builder I feel, but with a little bit of planing it shouldn't be that difficult do you think.
This kit seems to be for the more experienced builder I feel, but with a little bit of planing it shouldn't be that difficult do you think.
ROD
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
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