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Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:03 pm
by Andrew
Hi all,

Yesterday evening I finished (for now, at least) the two latest slate wagons, and here they are:

Finished slate wagons 29 and 32 A.jpg
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Finished slate wagons 29 and 32 B.jpg
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I now have 12 traditional "crate" type slate wagons (9 FR and 3 WHR) - I think I can feel an England-hauled slate train coming on over the long weekend...

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:19 pm
by FWLR
I do like them a lot Andrew. Have you 3D printed the brake handles.?

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:22 pm
by FWLR
I also like the way you have roughed up the sides of the wagon, really authentic I think anyway. :thumbright:

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:28 pm
by Peter Butler
Very nice Andrew, they look like they have earned their keep over the years.

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:35 pm
by Andrew
FWLR wrote: Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:19 pm I do like them a lot Andrew. Have you 3D printed the brake handles.?
Hi Rod,

No, they're just cut from plastic sheet - fiddly, and not my favourite job, but they turned out OK. I currently have no 3D printing skills or equipment. One day, maybe...

Cheers,

Andrew

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:41 pm
by ge_rik
I must admit I prefer the older wooden design, rather than the more 'modern' metal milk crate style.
Both beautifully modelled, though!

Rik

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Sun May 01, 2022 12:34 pm
by JMORG
They look great Andrew. I was thinking of doing a more scale NWNGR wooden wagon using a Line Side Hut 45mm slate wagon - they're a bit larger than the 32mm so it'll be a good starting point!

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 10:20 am
by Andrew
JMORG wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 12:34 pm They look great Andrew. I was thinking of doing a more scale NWNGR wooden wagon using a Line Side Hut 45mm slate wagon - they're a bit larger than the 32mm so it'll be a good starting point!
Hmm, now that's a good idea!

The real thing (well, the works photo one) has an addition column of "bobbins" at each end - I replicated those with a cocktail stick and some slices of biro inner. You could add the latter to the Lineside Hut kit to make them more realistic? Are you thinking of replacing the axleboxes with the apprropriate type of Binnie one?

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 10:05 pm
by JMORG
I have actually made many slate wagons using this very method Andrew:
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This is the latest - IP axle boxes are used on all of them, they will need added plastic strips to thicken the chassis or else the wheels won't fit!

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 1:33 pm
by Andrew
Yep, I'm definitely going to do that, looks great...

Are those 24mm wheels you've used? I'm wondering whether LH would be prepared to provide an extra of the "lower chassis" parts - no harm in asking, I guess?

You've inspired me - I should be returning to working on carriages, but maybe I'll make more slate wagons instead...

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 9:39 pm
by JMORG
See this page:
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... &start=420

The good thing about the LSH wagons is that you can add a fair amount of variation to them. I used the original wheels as supplied in the kit.

The 2-plank wagons started off as his flats, they're great starting points in my opinion.

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 8:05 pm
by Andrew
JMORG wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 9:39 pm See this page:
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... &start=420

The good thing about the LSH wagons is that you can add a fair amount of variation to them. I used the original wheels as supplied in the kit.

The 2-plank wagons started off as his flats, they're great starting points in my opinion.
Ah, I really should have remembered that, it's on this very thread - thank you!

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 8:18 pm
by Andrew
Hello all,

I'm working on a Phil Sharples Padarn Railway guards van at the moment, as a quick bit of fun between more "serious" (hah!) projects. I think it will be allocated to the (fictional) Clarach Quarry, and so make occasional trips out onto the (equally fictional) Clarach Branch of the Welsh Highland.

It's a very nice little kit - here's where I've got to so far:

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The interior will have a guard and a brake wheel - that's a departure from the original, as I understand it, because I think that was only a guards van in that the guard rode in it, along with the slate wagons, atop 4' gauge transporter wagons.

I'm not sure how to finish the thing. It seems grey or maroon would be prototypical, and would fit with the rest of my stock, but I'm also thinking that - as a private owner wagon in my fictional universe - it might be fun to paint it in a faded blue or green. Maybe with a rusted corrugated iron roof, to really bring out the garden shed vibes. Any opinions welcome!

Cheers,

Andrew

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 10:03 pm
by Peter Butler
'Any opinions welcome!'
I would love to help Andrew, but I'm distracted by spots before my eyes!

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 7:55 am
by FWLR
Peter Butler wrote: Fri May 06, 2022 10:03 pm 'Any opinions welcome!'
I would love to help Andrew, but I'm distracted by spots before my eyes!
:lol :lol

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:42 am
by Phil.P
Faded maroon, with dirty-great white spots, perchance?

:shock:

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:28 pm
by Old Man Aaron
Faded blue/green I reckon. Can't go wrong with extra variety on the narrow gauge.

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 11:24 am
by JMORG
Would it be possible to do a varnished wood livery?

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 6:06 pm
by Phil.P
Now if only I had taken some photos.. :dontknow:

There were two very nice NWNGR coach bodies, where I was on Saturday..
Varnished, made from real Teak.

Re: (WH)WHR Rolling Stock

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 9:15 am
by Andrew
Morning all,

Not much time for modelling this week but, in a brief update, I knocked up a corrugated roof for the van, just to see how it would look. I liked it, so I'm going down the "shed on wheels" route, and I'll paint the thing either sky blue or pea green. With or without spots.

I really like the varnished wood idea, but perhaps a little posh for this little van, and I don't know how well it would work in MDF? I do like the idea of varnished teak carriages at some point though, either a freelance rake (balconied saloons, or really ancient looking 4-wheelers, maybe?) or the NWNGR Cleminsons you mention Phil, although I seriously doubt my ability to build a 6 wheel underframe that stays on the rails!