FBGR Loco No.5
FBGR Loco No.5
I said at the time that I fancied something continental to pull my new P-Way train (see http://gardenrails.myfreeforum.org/abou ... highlight= ), and after some thought and looking at pics on the Internet, I chose a LKM class Ns2 diesel locomotive. These 6 ton locomotives were produced between 1950 and 1952, and only a handful would appear to have survived into preservation. The model was succeed by the class Ns2f, which had external rods, but retained many other details. The Ns2f was produced from 1953 to 1960, and quite a few of these have survived, many in near original condition.
Although I had seen pictures of models of the Ns2 at various scales, I don’t think I have seen one at 16mm/ft, and the fact it is a 4wDM (i.e. not having external rods) would make it easier for me to model.
Prototype drawings and pictures were available on the net, and I wanted to use the radio control equipment recovered from the unsuccessful attempt to fit to it our locomotive “BLUE”.
First was to mock up the general shape in Google Sketchup and then in card to get a general idea of the shape and size and make sure that all the bits could be fitted in.
The Sketchup draft
Once I was satisfied that it should all be possible, I made the frame. Now-a-days I use Plasicard for just about everything, so there was no thought given to using anything else.
Main Frame – the filled round hole was from my first thought of mounting the motor vertically, but it will now be fitted horizontally. It is likely that some more holes will have to be formed as I progress, and possibly some form of catches for the removable bonnet.
JOhn
Although I had seen pictures of models of the Ns2 at various scales, I don’t think I have seen one at 16mm/ft, and the fact it is a 4wDM (i.e. not having external rods) would make it easier for me to model.
Prototype drawings and pictures were available on the net, and I wanted to use the radio control equipment recovered from the unsuccessful attempt to fit to it our locomotive “BLUE”.
First was to mock up the general shape in Google Sketchup and then in card to get a general idea of the shape and size and make sure that all the bits could be fitted in.
The Sketchup draft
Once I was satisfied that it should all be possible, I made the frame. Now-a-days I use Plasicard for just about everything, so there was no thought given to using anything else.
Main Frame – the filled round hole was from my first thought of mounting the motor vertically, but it will now be fitted horizontally. It is likely that some more holes will have to be formed as I progress, and possibly some form of catches for the removable bonnet.
JOhn
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FBGR Loco No.5
Thanks Annie.
Everything is plasticard, mostly from sheets of various thickness, plus a few small (or very small) bits of rod (both round and hexagonal) for bolts etc.
JOhn
Everything is plasticard, mostly from sheets of various thickness, plus a few small (or very small) bits of rod (both round and hexagonal) for bolts etc.
JOhn
FBGR Loco No.5
Chassis now made.
This was my third attempt, all the time learning (and taking notes on what works and don’t); at least the material is nice and cheap. I will probably have to add some more holes, and maybe even insert a notch or two (or maybe move onto a fourth attempt).
JOhn
This was my third attempt, all the time learning (and taking notes on what works and don’t); at least the material is nice and cheap. I will probably have to add some more holes, and maybe even insert a notch or two (or maybe move onto a fourth attempt).
JOhn
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I agree, they are superb!Annie:75730 wrote:Very nice. Are those axleboxes your own work? - because if they are they are very fine pieces indeed.
Tony Willmore
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FBGR Loco No.5
Bonnet now made
All in plasicard of course, although I did use some wire for the hatch handles. Inspection of various photos of prototypes showed them as all slightly different when it comes to exact locations of bolts and fittings. As a result the some of the finer detailing points are a bit of a hybrid and may not be representative of one particular locomotive.
John
All in plasicard of course, although I did use some wire for the hatch handles. Inspection of various photos of prototypes showed them as all slightly different when it comes to exact locations of bolts and fittings. As a result the some of the finer detailing points are a bit of a hybrid and may not be representative of one particular locomotive.
John
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Cab now made
Again all in plasticard. The location of some of the workings may have varied over the years of production, and the main drawing I was using had a lot of hidden detail cluttering up the views. It is possible that some of the pictures I had seen were of locomotives that had been modified over the years, and the couple of good shots of the inside of a cab that I had had the hand brake on the back sheet. In the end I reverted to putting in all the controls that would have been fitted to a basic locomotive of this vintage (handbrake lever, forward/reverse gear lever, change of gear (first and second) wheel, throttle lever, sanding lever, and oil pressure gauge), and then checking to see if these fitted in with any pictures and drawings that I had, rather than the other way round.
JOhn
Again all in plasticard. The location of some of the workings may have varied over the years of production, and the main drawing I was using had a lot of hidden detail cluttering up the views. It is possible that some of the pictures I had seen were of locomotives that had been modified over the years, and the couple of good shots of the inside of a cab that I had had the hand brake on the back sheet. In the end I reverted to putting in all the controls that would have been fitted to a basic locomotive of this vintage (handbrake lever, forward/reverse gear lever, change of gear (first and second) wheel, throttle lever, sanding lever, and oil pressure gauge), and then checking to see if these fitted in with any pictures and drawings that I had, rather than the other way round.
JOhn
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Assembly – well the bits that show
At least the out sides is all together, but the insides is another story -
I wanted to make all the controls and battery etc. in modular form, so that it could be removed, rebuilt or replaced as necessary (and could be useful for similar future projects). My first effort did not have quite enough room for the batteries. My second effort looked promising, but during initial testing at home I managed to damage the drive worm and cog – the four wheel drive gave is so much traction that the worm/cog partly stripped before any wheel slip (it’s funny how I always seem to damage the something that I don’t have a spare). So I have sent for a replacement (and a spare). When these arrive, and when I have re-assembled these into the chassis, I will be able to take it all down to the FBGR for a proper test.
Only then will I be able to see if a Mark 3 control module is going to be required.
In the meantime while I wait for the postman to deliver, I have started work on another brick building.
JOhn
At least the out sides is all together, but the insides is another story -
I wanted to make all the controls and battery etc. in modular form, so that it could be removed, rebuilt or replaced as necessary (and could be useful for similar future projects). My first effort did not have quite enough room for the batteries. My second effort looked promising, but during initial testing at home I managed to damage the drive worm and cog – the four wheel drive gave is so much traction that the worm/cog partly stripped before any wheel slip (it’s funny how I always seem to damage the something that I don’t have a spare). So I have sent for a replacement (and a spare). When these arrive, and when I have re-assembled these into the chassis, I will be able to take it all down to the FBGR for a proper test.
Only then will I be able to see if a Mark 3 control module is going to be required.
In the meantime while I wait for the postman to deliver, I have started work on another brick building.
JOhn
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Thank you for the comments, Narrow Minded, Annie and Si.
Yes the outside is coming on quite nicely, but I have a tray of lots of bits made and rejected. Some parts I make over and over until I am satisfied, but the material is cheap, my time is free and it is better to start again than trying to repair mistakes. Keeping notes as I go along also helps not make the same mistake twice (some of the time).
I do wish the same could be said for the progress on the inside.
My ineptitude with the control module may still stall the project – I think it should work, and it works for bit when testing at home, but when I get it down to have a proper run on the FBGR it wont properly.
I’ll have one more go when I’ve fitted the fresh worm and cog, and if it don’t work then I shall have to contact the radio control manufacturer.
Si – cogs and chain were from http://www.motionco.co.uk/
JOhn
Yes the outside is coming on quite nicely, but I have a tray of lots of bits made and rejected. Some parts I make over and over until I am satisfied, but the material is cheap, my time is free and it is better to start again than trying to repair mistakes. Keeping notes as I go along also helps not make the same mistake twice (some of the time).
I do wish the same could be said for the progress on the inside.
My ineptitude with the control module may still stall the project – I think it should work, and it works for bit when testing at home, but when I get it down to have a proper run on the FBGR it wont properly.
I’ll have one more go when I’ve fitted the fresh worm and cog, and if it don’t work then I shall have to contact the radio control manufacturer.
Si – cogs and chain were from http://www.motionco.co.uk/
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