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Kit bashing the Mamod William (FINISHED)

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:13 pm
by benchmark
if you aer interested you can follow the build thread for the modding of my brand new Mamod william loco. She is a very good runner but the original design is not really to my fancy.
The first thing i want to do is relocate the steam regulator into the cab and add a pressure gauge.

I started by removing some rivets with a drill and here she is laying in disassembled state.


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This is the new steam regulator i want to install in the cab and the pressure gauge .


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I now cut of the old valve arm on top of the boiler which was too tall for my liking


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Then i started threading the exhaust ports in the valve chests to allow for a tube coupling , this is to try and see if i can reroute the exhaust steam to the chimney


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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:22 pm
by Narrow Minded
This looks very interesting and certainly worth following to see if you can indeed "make a silk purse out of a sows ear", as many people would agree with your observations about the loco as supplied.
Your mods should make quite a difference!

Are you planning on also replacing the rather large diameter chimney?

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:24 pm
by benchmark
Narrow Minded:67345 wrote:
Are you planning on also replacing the rather large diameter chimney?
The chimney will stay as it is as i do not think its proportionally oversize.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:24 pm
by bessytractor
is that a water valve you're using as a regulator?

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:09 am
by benchmark
Yes it is a Reeves injector regulator. The lady i purchased it from at their stand at the Midlands model exhibition last year claimed it would work fine as a steam valve. At that time i wanted to use it in one of my boats. I hope she was correct.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:57 am
by spooner
The valve you wont to use as a regulator look like a plug valve.You really wont a needle valve.A plug valve has only got only 90deg movement from off to full on.
This project is very interesting.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:18 pm
by Spule 4
Interesting project.

I have wondered if we will see a William III from Mamod, using the Mk II Mamod boiler on the William II chassis.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:58 pm
by DLRdan
Looks an interesting project but before you go any further you need to take the cylinders off and remove any trace of metal left over from the threading. It will only take one shard to ruin the valves.

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:11 pm
by benchmark
DLRdan:67365 wrote:Looks an interesting project but before you go any further you need to take the cylinders off and remove any trace of metal left over from the threading. It will only take one shard to ruin the valves.
yes thanks, i did that too :)

You guys are correct about the Reeves injector valve, i tested it with compressed air under water and on close examination , i realised that it was not 100% airtight even in full closed position , this may be because it is designed for use as a water injector valve and not a steam regulator so these are now the parts i will use for plumbing


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Then i now made a 1/4 x 40 TPI bush and soldered this to the boiler where the old regulator stuck out


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Finally i removed the old mamod threaded lug nut and soldered a new nipple and lug nut in 1/4 x 40 TPI threading.

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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:06 am
by benchmark
Gentlemen , kindly allow me to introduce to you the 'Lady of the Lake'.


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There had to be some alterations as i came along , for example i had to abandon rerouteing the exhaust steam to the chimney because my threaded pipes porting the steam seems to stifle the locomotive. I would rather have a free running loco than a choked loco with chimney effects.

All in all the whole project cost me under £200 for a gas fired , slide valve engine that is capable of pulling up to 7 wagons as impressively as my Millie does it. Needless to say i am well pleased. :-)

Just to remind you, this is what the loco looked like on arrival last week.
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:33 am
by DolwyddelanLightRail
That is quite an improvement, maybe mamod should take note!

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:34 am
by Narrow Minded
Congratulations! I think that you can safely say "Mission Accomplished" :D

The smokebox door and extra details you've added to the tank tops really help to improve the look!

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:11 pm
by spooner
Only one thing that could be a problem is a plastic gas pipe touch a hot steam pipe.
Its a good job of making a loco out of a toy.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:53 pm
by LMS-Jools
Excellent work, :D
and a nice name too ;)

8)

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:48 pm
by MDLR
Nicely done! If I may make a suggestion, maybe painting that gas pipe with black acrylic will make it "disappear"...................

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:12 pm
by Sir haydn
MDLR:67417 wrote:Nicely done! If I may make  a suggestion, maybe painting that gas pipe with black acrylic will make it "disappear"...................
I believe the rolling stones made a similar suggestion about a red door

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:20 am
by Gremlin
Nice job but one comment on the globe valve. The steam inlet should be at the bottom. It will work as you've got it fitted but you are not using the valve to seal the steam, you are using the packing around the spindle and will opening the valve against the steam pressure. I made this mistake as well. Don't know if you can turn it 90 degrees.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:35 am
by benchmark
Gremlin:67434 wrote:Nice job but one comment on the globe valve. The steam inlet should be at the bottom. It will work as you've got it fitted but you are not using the valve to seal the steam, you are using the packing around the spindle and will opening the valve against the steam pressure. I made this mistake as well. Don't know if you can turn it 90 degrees.
dear, that is very true. I didnt think of that. :|
Thanks for pointing that out, i investigate other options for another type of steam valve . It does work fine now though, i have steamed her on the rolling roads 2 times.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:25 pm
by Jerm
Very handsome little loco. I like that the difference is immediately subtle but more distinct the longer you look at it.