Binnie Slate wagon

Merddin Emrys · Post by **Merddin Emrys** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:22 pm

Just built this, I've tried to make it look as knackered as possible

I'm very new to this weathering lark, I used to do 009 many moons ago and it was a different kettle of fish altogether

taliesin001 · Post by **taliesin001** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:45 pm

Looks great!

I'm thinking of getting a few of these (well actually quite a few) to attach to the end of my festiniog train. Do back2bay6 still do these?

DolwyddelanLightRail · Post by **DolwyddelanLightRail** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:37 pm

How much/how time consuming are these to make?

taliesin001 · Post by **taliesin001** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:40 pm

Is this an all plastic kit?

Merddin Emrys · Post by **Merddin Emrys** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:01 pm

It's a totally plastic kit, I'll be adding lead underneath and I know some people use metal wheels (Slaters?) My wive, Helen did most of the work to assemble it, lots of cleaning up of the parts was required! I made the couplings up and painted it, Im very happy with it really.

Timewise I'd say it took around 3 hours, sat in front of the telly

Merddin Emrys · Post by **Merddin Emrys** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:02 pm

taliesin001 wrote:Looks great! I'm thinking of getting a few of these (well actually quite a few) to attach to the end of my festiniog train. Do back2bay6 still do these?

We bought this kit over 2 years ago, can't remember where now, I want to try some Coopercraft kits sometime!

SillyBilly · Post by **SillyBilly** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:29 pm

Nice work, I'm makeing some modifications to the pair I have, such as 3 link couplings, steel wheels and additional buffing plate on the ends for a little extra detail, one day I'll get them finished!

They are £7-8 each off Binnie Engineering who make them, I'm sure I have their e-mail address somewhere if you want, I would've thought they'd be at Stoneleigh though.

TonyW · Post by **TonyW** » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:33 pm

SillyBilly wrote:... such as 3 link couplings ...

Don't you mean a single link and a hook?

METHSSNIFFER · Post by **METHSSNIFFER** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:36 am

Its a shame these binnie wagons are not to scale being too narrow but they do make for a nice wagon I replaced mine with the Dinorwic slaters wagon. They are superb!

DolwyddelanLightRail · Post by **DolwyddelanLightRail** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:39 am

SillyBilly wrote: They are £7-8 each off Binnie Engineering who make them, I'm sure I have their e-mail address somewhere if you want, I would've thought they'd be at Stoneleigh though.

Do they come with the wheels/axle boxes etc in that price? Or do you have to get those bits separatly?

Merddin Emrys · Post by **Merddin Emrys** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:11 am

it's all in the kit, although most people fit steel wheels, I've not run mine yet though, probably I'll end up doing the same!

Merddin Emrys · Post by **Merddin Emrys** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:16 am

METHSSNIFFER wrote:Its a shame these binnie wagons are not to scale being too narrow but they do make for a nice wagon I replaced mine with the Dinorwic slaters wagon. They are superb!

I can't see them being much too narrow comparing the model to Tony's pic of the full size wagon, the real one looks just wider than the 2 foot gauge track looking at the pic, I'll have to find a drawing of it

I've got a Slaters FR slate wagon to do next!

METHSSNIFFER · Post by **METHSSNIFFER** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:27 am

Me too I have the slaters FR wagon kits and I have now made a jig to solder and form sides and ends from brass strip. Quite easy to do too! Wagon measures 6' x 3' binnies are right length but fall short on width!

Merddin Emrys · Post by **Merddin Emrys** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:30 am

found a drawing in Boyd's book (page 152 vol1) it says the real wood wagon is just 2 foot 7" wide which would be 41.3333mm so at about 48mm the model is actually a bit wide! not that it really matters cause it looks right

METHSSNIFFER · Post by **METHSSNIFFER** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:37 am

Yep you are right just consulted my volume 1 as well 2' 7" wide Im now figuring out the width of slate that it would carry!!

Merddin Emrys · Post by **Merddin Emrys** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:38 am

METHSSNIFFER wrote:Me too I have the slaters FR wagon kits and I have now made a jig to solder and form sides and ends from brass strip. Quite easy to do too! Wagon measures 6' x 3' binnies are right length but fall short on width!

if Boyd's right the Binnie is too long too, the real wooden wagons were 5 foot 3" long, it seems like bug boxes wooden slate wagons are tiny

Boyd also say's no two were exactly the same!

METHSSNIFFER · Post by **METHSSNIFFER** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:41 am

and it was taken from a rough drawing as well.!!

DolwyddelanLightRail · Post by **DolwyddelanLightRail** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:55 pm

Just found out that their £8.25, so i may get a load of them to make a small rake!

taliesin001 · Post by **taliesin001** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:43 pm

That is what I was thinking, not too expensive and you could mix them with the coopercraft ones and some build some covered wagons to get a mixed rake. I think there was something about this is one of the SMT's, they had built a rake to go behind some vintage stock. Looked lovely but I bet building them gets a bit repetitive!

Merddin Emrys · Post by **Merddin Emrys** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:35 pm

Just built a Coopercraft LNWR coal wagon to go with the slate wagon, its a lovely kit to make and full of detail

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