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A short 4-wheel wagon

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:33 am
by gregh
This not the most exciting build but is my latest time waster.

While cleaning up my modeling room I found two front bogies from Bachmann Big Haulers.

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So I thought they would be easy to use to make a couple of short wagons for my indoor line.

A few bits of 8mm thick pine, a lot of coffee stirrers, some glue, black boot polish and voila - wagon #79 is ready to run.

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It is obviously an inside bearing arrangement - no idea if such things exist on wagons, but they do on my railway! I could add some fake outside springs and axles boxes if anyone complains.

(still working on the second wagon)

Re: A short 4-wheel wagon

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:56 am
by drewzero1
I've seen pictures of tipper wagons with inside bearings, so you certainly won't hear any complaint from me! Looks like it fits right in. :thumbup:

Re: A short 4-wheel wagon

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:18 am
by ge_rik
The only inside framed wagons I can think of were early chaldron wagons. No doubt there were other styles.
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Rik

Re: A short 4-wheel wagon

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:23 am
by ge_rik
Almost forgot. Some skip wagons have inside frames. You'd need to shorten the wheelbase, though.
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Rik

Re: A short 4-wheel wagon

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:31 am
by philipy
Prototypical or not, I like that wagon Greg. "Your railway, your rules" applies and stuff anyone who disagrees! :lol:

Re: A short 4-wheel wagon

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:15 am
by StuartJ
Many of the earlier Festiniog waggons were inside framed:
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Re: A short 4-wheel wagon

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:36 am
by GTB
gregh wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:33 am
It is obviously an inside bearing arrangement - no idea if such things exist on wagons, but they do on my railway! I could add some fake outside springs and axles boxes if anyone complains.
If the NSWGR could use surplus garratt bogies as rail tractor chassis, I can't see why your claypit line couldn't use a couple of loco bogies from scrapped locos for flat cars.

If you look in old Hudson and O&K catalogs you will find various types of inside bearing wagons on offer, including flat wagons.

Regards,
Graeme

Re: A short 4-wheel wagon

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:52 pm
by gregh
StuartJ wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:15 am Many of the earlier Festiniog waggons were inside framed:
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Thanks everyone. That FR wagon may just be the prototype for the 2nd bogie. Shows there's a prototype for just about anything.