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Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:46 pm
by Old Man Aaron
Looks a well-thought-out transport system, nice work. :salute:

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:59 pm
by Michael Schulz
Hello Steve,
Your system with real planting looks very realistic. I can only do it a little on my station modules. (My new gardenrailway 16mm-SM 32)
Unfortunately, there is not enough space on my track modules.I'm very excited to see progress.
Michael from Berlin

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:49 pm
by Sylvian Tennant
A wonderful concept there.

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:49 pm
by steveh99
Well it all went back together again in one piece and with no damage. I had to tweak the return track to fix a slight mis-alignment and had to slightly enlarge the openings in the back scene to allow for the locos being on a curve as they go through

Setup in Fawley museum:
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The return track loop is a single track on 12mm MDF boards with a central section of cassettes to hold train consists
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Roundhouse Lilla with slate train pauses at Pen-Y-Bont halt
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Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:23 pm
by Peter Butler
That looks amazing, I do hope it was well received.

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:25 pm
by ge_rik
Now that does look good! Well worth all that effort!

Rik

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:18 pm
by spaeker
looks great
why do you call it portable . Just that would love solution to garden railway / lift it and mow the grass/ pack away for winter or mostly ..
going for a tram layout ... going to run mostly along the garden fence just below the top .. I'm all plastic track RC control and Faller so can leave the track out have to put the servos away though ...

also newbie: you say 16 guage running on 32mm track ?? why isnt that O gauge ? ( dont hit me)
ciao ms o

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:43 pm
by philipy
spaeker wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:18 pm

you say 16 guage running on 32mm track ?? why isnt that O gauge ? ( dont hit me)
No, he actually said "16mm scale on 32mm gauge track " ( modelling narrow gauge trains).
To answer your question, 'O Gauge' is 7mm scale on 32mm gauge track - modelling standard gauge trains.
In other words, basically the track is nominally the same width but O gauge models are less than half the size of 16mm models ( 7/16). Hence the narrow gauge effect.

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:04 pm
by spaeker
thanls explanation going to persevere with tech . garden railways whole new language

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:19 pm
by spaeker
philipy one more help sizes

looking at photos of Pen Y Bont locos .. They look a lot like my Faller Hit train size ( 32mm track designated O gauge probably for want of better )
Like to contemplate buying " 32mm track locos" apart from Faller . for my layout With a view to converting to RC cab control
Buying " 32mm track locos " with attempting some kind of " scale " as you point out looks like a hiding to nothing ?

so Pic of a faller loco ( 32mm track) attached ( from http://www.faller-hit-train.co.uk/index ... l&cat=3764) Can you estimate the "scale" so to point me for suitable equivalent apart from Faller

(Faller went out production in 80's There is not much about them in detail scale etc . It was "Fantasy set"
I have my cross to bear as I fell for it .. but engineering wise I still say ahead of its time.)

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:08 pm
by Andrew
In Faller terms, it's the difference between "Hit Train" and "E train", the same gauge, but to different scales - roughly O scale and 16mm/SM32 respectively.

Hope that helps!

Pen-y-Bont's looking brilliant, by the way...

Andrew.

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:03 am
by FWLR
Pen-Y-Bont is just a brilliantly thought out set up Steve. :thumbright: :thumbright:

You have now got me thinking of doing something on the same lines myself. Has we rent, it would be a far better way of having a line and it could be expanded to whatever we wanted and it would still be able to run our stock.

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:34 pm
by Mike Griff
Hi Steve, great railway and concept. I have yet to start my own railway though some ideas already exist, you have made some of those ideas real and fleshed them out for me, thank you. I shall be inerested to see further posts, cheers Mike

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:46 pm
by Hydrostatic Dazza
There should be more of this.
Bravo.

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:25 am
by steveh99
Thanks for all the compliments. The layout continues to evolve as the alpines grow and spread so I thought I would add a couple more photos of them as this layout is all about the plants.
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Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:56 am
by philipy
Looks wonderful. If I hadn't known I would never have guessed that it isn't in the garden.

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:02 pm
by ge_rik
Does it live outside when not being exhibited?

Rik

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:21 pm
by steveh99
Yep, it lives outside in the garden all year round, set up as you see in the pictures. It's had a couple of years now to develop so its been through about eight seasons of weather from ice & snow, frost, torrential downpours and long hot spells. Some alpines have not done so well and others have thrived and spread. The mind your own business does not do too well, it doesn't like icy weather or hot dry spells. The Raoulia is very sensitive to changes in weather and the original large mound has largely withered, but remnants of it remain amongst the other plants. Only one Sagina remains and the Scelranthus have gone. The Tymes and the Leptinellas are very hardy and prolific. The fir trees require regular pruning to keep the height down and I do this by removing individual shoots rather than with shears. Good job my other hobby is gardening.

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:53 am
by FWLR
I am in the same mind as philipy. It just looks like it is laid down in the garden.... :thumbright:

Re: Pen-Y-Bont A new portable garden layout

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:43 pm
by steveh99
Well first we had the bitter cold and frosts before Christmas and then rain almost everyday since so the layout has taken a bit of a battering. Today found that the birds had been having a fine old time ripping up the moss and other vegetation looking for food. Oh well, it's still two months to go before its first official outing at the Midlands Garden Rail show on 10/11th March so hopefully it will have recovered a bit by then. It never looks quite the same in any given month so Peterborough should be better. It is at its most floriferous in May/June.
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