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Hi Rik

yes, I've used scenic rust in the past and it is expensive and looking at the colour of their activator, I woud say it was dilute copper sulphate.

I bought a large bag of rust powder and copper sulphate from amazon for next to nothing and it has lasted me for years and I've never needed to buy anymore since.

Is this what you bought Steve.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Copper-Sulphat ... 473&sr=8-7#

it was a few years ago now, but yes, that will do the job. Just dissolve a spoon full of the stuff in a jar of water to make up a light blue solution and then wash over the rusted vehicle.

To apply the rust powder, I very lightly spray the vehicle with 3M photomount adhesive to create a tacky surface and then dust the powder on using a ladies make-up blusher brush. (You can use dilute PVA as per scenic rust, but I find a water based glue creates blobs of rust because of surface tension)

Leave for a few hours and then wash with copper sulphate solution using a small paintbrush. It will rust in about a day, but will continue to rust and age over time, particularly if left outside.

Thank you for the information, that's a great help.

First time in months, I split the layout and loaded it in to my van for transporting to Fawley Hill where I set it up for a trial exhibition outing
It survived the ordeal, pot holes, speed bumps and roundabouts etc. I used my Hambleden rack, reconfigured for wider boards and used 20mm steel conduit pipe bracing to support the added weight of the baseboards.

Looks a well-thought-out transport system, nice work.

Hello Steve,
Your system with real planting looks very realistic. I can only do it a little on my station modules. (My new gardenrailway 16mm-SM 32)
Unfortunately, there is not enough space on my track modules.I'm very excited to see progress.
Michael from Berlin

A wonderful concept there.

Well it all went back together again in one piece and with no damage. I had to tweak the return track to fix a slight mis-alignment and had to slightly enlarge the openings in the back scene to allow for the locos being on a curve as they go through

Setup in Fawley museum:
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The return track loop is a single track on 12mm MDF boards with a central section of cassettes to hold train consists
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Roundhouse Lilla with slate train pauses at Pen-Y-Bont halt
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That looks amazing, I do hope it was well received.

Now that does look good! Well worth all that effort!

Rik

looks great
why do you call it portable . Just that would love solution to garden railway / lift it and mow the grass/ pack away for winter or mostly ..
going for a tram layout ... going to run mostly along the garden fence just below the top .. I'm all plastic track RC control and Faller so can leave the track out have to put the servos away though ...

also newbie: you say 16 guage running on 32mm track ?? why isnt that O gauge ? ( dont hit me)
ciao ms o

spaeker wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:18 pm

you say 16 guage running on 32mm track ?? why isnt that O gauge ? ( dont hit me)

No, he actually said "16mm scale on 32mm gauge track " ( modelling narrow gauge trains).
To answer your question, 'O Gauge' is 7mm scale on 32mm gauge track - modelling standard gauge trains.
In other words, basically the track is nominally the same width but O gauge models are less than half the size of 16mm models ( 7/16). Hence the narrow gauge effect.

thanls explanation going to persevere with tech . garden railways whole new language

philipy one more help sizes

looking at photos of Pen Y Bont locos .. They look a lot like my Faller Hit train size ( 32mm track designated O gauge probably for want of better )
Like to contemplate buying " 32mm track locos" apart from Faller . for my layout With a view to converting to RC cab control
Buying " 32mm track locos " with attempting some kind of " scale " as you point out looks like a hiding to nothing ?

so Pic of a faller loco ( 32mm track) attached ( from http://www.faller-hit-train.co.uk/index ... l&cat=3764) Can you estimate the "scale" so to point me for suitable equivalent apart from Faller

(Faller went out production in 80's There is not much about them in detail scale etc . It was "Fantasy set"
I have my cross to bear as I fell for it .. but engineering wise I still say ahead of its time.)

In Faller terms, it's the difference between "Hit Train" and "E train", the same gauge, but to different scales - roughly O scale and 16mm/SM32 respectively.

Hope that helps!

Pen-y-Bont's looking brilliant, by the way...

Andrew.

Pen-Y-Bont is just a brilliantly thought out set up Steve.

You have now got me thinking of doing something on the same lines myself. Has we rent, it would be a far better way of having a line and it could be expanded to whatever we wanted and it would still be able to run our stock.

Hi Steve, great railway and concept. I have yet to start my own railway though some ideas already exist, you have made some of those ideas real and fleshed them out for me, thank you. I shall be inerested to see further posts, cheers Mike

Thanks for all the compliments. The layout continues to evolve as the alpines grow and spread so I thought I would add a couple more photos of them as this layout is all about the plants.