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Superb Rik, simply superb.

Andrew

Seriously impressive structures Rik, your work rate is increasing at an astonishing pace with an increasing level of skill.

Clearly your clocks must run at a different rate to mine. I never seem to have enough time in the day to do what I do least of all your prodigious output. Well done Rik, yet another project that sets your line apart.

Thanks folks. It does help to have an understanding and very tolerant partner. I suppose it keeps me from getting under her feet.....

Rik

ge_rik wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2019 7:48 am Thanks folks. It does help to have an understanding and very tolerant partner. I suppose it keeps me from getting under her feet.....

Rik

Same for me Rik...

Really really impressed with your hoppers Rik. Once you have painted them they will look even more superb. Waiting to see what colours you use....

I've had a go at painting one of them. Still somewhat experimental - I can tweak my techniques as I do the other two.

Slightly brutal full-frontal view. Gives some idea how it looks in situ. .
Close-up of the mechanisms for raising and lowering the hatch and the chute. Based around some model boat fittings. .
Three-quarter view of the hopper in its location in the siding. Not sure I've quite got the corrugated iron right yet. .
Rik

IMHO, I think you've got that rusty corrugated iron, EXACTLY right. and the whole lot is superb. I think you've got to the 'if it an't broke don't fix it' point.

My only suggestion is that the chute should be either rusty and/or silvery if the sand scours it.

philipy wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 3:56 pm IMHO, I think you've got that rusty corrugated iron, EXACTLY right. and the whole lot is superb. I think you've got to the 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' point.
My only suggestion is that the chute should be either rusty and/or silvery if the sand scours it.

Thanks Philip. Yes, you're right, a bit of shininess and more visible rust needed. There is some rust on the chute but maybe it's a bit too subtle.

Rik
PS - The main problem I'm having with the corrugated iron is that the corrugations aren't uniform and so one sheet doesn't 'mesh' with the other. I think the pressure on the rollers in my paper corrugator is lower in the middle and so the corrugations are less pronounced in the middle than at the edges. Apart from making matching up the corrugations tricky, it also makes the sheets bow in the middle.

ge_rik wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:26 pm Apart from making matching up the corrugations tricky, it also makes the sheets bow in the middle.

Rusty corrugated does all sorts of strange things. I wouldn't worry about it, it looks fine. I suspet its one of those cases where you know the faults, but nobody else sees them.

That's wonderful! It looks like it's been there for decades... I particularly like the streaks of rust...

All the best,

Andrew.

philipy wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 5:29 pm

ge_rik wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:26 pm Apart from making matching up the corrugations tricky, it also makes the sheets bow in the middle.

Rusty corrugated does all sorts of strange things. I wouldn't worry about it, it looks fine. I suspet its one of those cases where you know the faults, but nobody else sees them.

I'm with Philip all the way Rik. They are super.

Andrew

I can only add my praise to what has already been said..... other than that I'm speechless!

I think they look fantastic Rik. The corrugated iron is spot on for me. If you look at old photos of buildings with corrugated iron on them, you will see all kinds of permeations of them.
Some with patches all over them and bent and twisted like you wouldn't believe....

ge_rik wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 4:26 pm I think the pressure on the rollers in my paper corrugator is lower in the middle and so the corrugations are less pronounced in the middle than at the edges. Apart from making matching up the corrugations tricky, it also makes the sheets bow in the middle.

What are the rollers in your paper crimper made from? Some brands are plastic, some are aluminium, the plastic ones will be more flexible. Mine was made by Fiskars and has aluminium rolls, as Grant had warned me about the plastic ones.

FWIW, old corrugated iron roofing rusts faster at one end of the sheet. The galvanising process used up until the '50s meant the zinc coating thickness varied from one end of the sheet to the other. Which end rusts first depends on which way around the sheets were fixed on the roof.

The bins look good. Is the sand pit line going to have a loco, or will the trains be neddy powered?

Regards,
Graeme

Thanks folks. Very kind of you. It's your encouragement that keeps me trying new things.

GTB wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:09 am What are the rollers in your paper crimper made from? Some brands are plastic, some are aluminium, the plastic ones will be more flexible. Mine was made by Fiskars and has aluminium rolls, as Grant had warned me about the plastic ones.

Aluminium. Maybe the gauge of the aluminium sheet is too much for it to handle?

GTB wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:09 am FWIW, old corrugated iron roofing rusts faster at one end of the sheet. The galvanising process used up until the '50s meant the zinc coating thickness varied from one end of the sheet to the other. Which end rusts first depends on which way around the sheets were fixed on the roof.

Thanks Graeme, that's useful info. I looked at pictures online of rusty corrugated, amazing how many there are!

GTB wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 11:09 am Is the sand pit line going to have a loco, or will the trains be neddy powered?

I've got a couple of small diesel locos I can use, but horse power would make it interesting.

Rik

ge_rik wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2019 1:09 pm Maybe the gauge of the aluminium sheet is too much for it to handle?

The roll of aluminium foil I've got came from a local craft shop and is approx. 0.1mm, which is a similar thickness to the foil used for pie dishes, etc.

The width of the workpiece can also be an issue. I ran into problems when I tried to corrugate 0.25mm brass shim, which is definitely beyond the limit. It took multiple passes with an anneal after each pass through the rolls to get even corrugations across the strip, which was about 110mm wide. A test piece about 50mm wide worked OK, which lulled me into a false sense of security......

Graeme

Mine are aluminium also Rik. They do a good job, but I think I have some thin sheet. The only thing with them is they are quite small. I haven't put anything from them on a build yet, but there is time...

More or less finished them off this afternoon. A quick test-fit on-location. Will need to do some proper landscaping and think about how I'm going to tackle the 32mm gauge feeder behind them. . . .
Can't believe I'm saying this, but it's too hot outside to do more than take a few quick pictures....

Rik

Beautifully decrepit!

Better and better!