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Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:40 am
by Lonsdaler
Lovely work. I use a longer version of there narrow box to hold my steamy bits'n'bobs in, and have often wondered if it could make a useful wagon. Now I know (in the right hands, anyway!) :D

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:36 pm
by RylstonLight
LNR wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:58 am The camera certainly sees a lot the "objective" eye fails to notice.
Grant.
Especially in the garden, the number of good shots I have ruined by not noticing a bright red wheelbarrow wheel in the mid-distance that draws the eye to it.
The Rylston Light is between incarnations, and I was planning the next version so that scenes "fall into" themselves to minimise real world parts of the garden intruding. It will have to be seen if it ever achieves the intent.

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:46 pm
by RylstonLight
AND continuing the Lister project:

I managed to get several short runs in the (1:1) workshop that allowed me to "machine" out the void behind the new grill. Done with sequential drilling up to 10mm with electric hand drill, then use of handheld mini-drill (predates Dremel but same principle) with a ball mill.

As you can see pretty crude:
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But when the grill is placed lightly up against the void the irregular edges are hidden:
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And then next step will be spraying the raw metal, but not with today's weather. The rest of the afternoon was devoted to small repair jobs and my rolling programme of adding tare weight markings to rolling stock (interspersed with the odd nap!).

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:15 am
by FWLR
I have a nap or two every day... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:18 pm
by RylstonLight
Lister project continues:

This may get mired again as Big Jim has made me think again. RC size has greatly improved since the project stalled last time. Thanks Jim for link to Boaz project.

However there was some progress on painting until the wind got up again. It was finally finished as light was failing.

Tony, the Lister Renovation Project co-ordinator, stood back to admire the paint job after he'd lovingly applied the last brush-stroke. He insists that careful research showed that this was the nearest match to Lister green. The CME came across from the running shed and stood a full minute before gulping and walking back out to the twilight without a word. Old Tom muttered something about it "maybe be even more in yer face in 'daylight", with a definite impish smile. Hard to tell under the incandescent lights.

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Still progress has been made.

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:21 pm
by LNR
Just wonderful.
Grant.

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:21 am
by tom_tom_go
Can I have one of those workshops 1:1 scale please?

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:18 am
by philipy
tom_tom_go wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:21 am Can I have one of those workshops 1:1 scale please?
Personally I'd settle for one at 1:19 !! It really is a work of art in it's own right.

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:19 am
by FWLR
philipy wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:18 am
tom_tom_go wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:21 am Can I have one of those workshops 1:1 scale please?
Personally I'd settle for one at 1:19 !! It really is a work of art in it's own right.
So would I in any scale.... :thumbright:

Agree with Phillip.... :thumbright:

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:21 am
by River Lin
A-ma-zing.
D.

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:35 pm
by Big Jim
You can almost smell the grease and oil fumes in the air.

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:36 pm
by ge_rik
River Lin wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:21 am A-ma-zing.
D.
Couldn't have put it better myself...... :thumbleft:

Rik

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:53 pm
by RylstonLight
Thanks everyone

The Lister project continues with a look at the livery in daylight. As you can see it looks better for matting down and some light weathering.

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A slightly elevated view allows a comparison of weathering techniques. I find weathering where the surface is worn away (eg the footplate wear where the driver's feet sit) is best achieved by literally wearing it down with light wet and dry to reveal the previous layer. However I find built-up weathering ( eg the grime in corners of the frames or the rust on the grill) is best with building up by layers of paints powders and dyes. An overall light spray of ModelMates weathering dye (rust) gives a patina of use. I did like the oil colour (it really looked like a oil-water separation effect) but have run out and the company is no more. If anyone knows of similar products I would be grateful for the heads-up.

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There will be a slight hiatus on this project as after Big Jim's temptation, I am researching small RC receivers and Li-lo batteries. Mmmmm.

And as an aside did the Lister make it out into the yard under its own steam? One answer:

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Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:12 pm
by Big Jim
What, no easy-start?

Have you tried the Humbrol range of weathering washes?

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:22 pm
by RylstonLight
Big Jim wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:12 pm What, no easy-start?

Have you tried the Humbrol range of weathering washes?
Looked at them with uncertainty, but saved from the decision by the sheer amount of empty spaces on the rack!

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:26 pm
by RylstonLight
One from the archives. This was the Lister in April 2002. Horrid livery and dodgy weathering, but there really wasn't the same returns when searching on the internet for Lister images. Funny how you don't think your modelling or photography skills improve until you see an old image. All the rolling stock is still exists in use in some form.

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Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:40 pm
by Big Jim
I have had mixed experiences with them. It is worth looking at the tutorials that humbrol have published on YouTube on how they work.

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:47 pm
by RylstonLight
Thanks for the tip, I will

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:11 am
by LNR
I was hoping Tony would take the Lister out and get it a little grimed up.
I too like polishing steel handrails, steps, running boards etc. to show constant wear, was wondering have you tried the paint and chip method using Maskol. Certainly not my idea (copied from Chuck Done on an American forum, worth looking up!) Strip the object to bare metal, apply the Maskol with a sharp tooth pick where chips and scuffing would appear, then spray or brush paint. When dry and hard, pick the Maskol off leaving a chip back to bare metal. I used it on the tractor in the pic. below.
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For oil and grease grime I add talcum powder to the brush, mixed with the paint and stippled to give depth. A very dark brown to almost black colour, followed by some gloss varnish to give a wet appearance as in the oil filler and steering rod ends.
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Grant.

Re: Finishing the unfinished

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:47 am
by FWLR
Wow Grant that is very very good. Looks just like the real thing.... :thumbright: :thumbright: