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Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:57 pm
by RylstonLight
The livery is rather nice under natural light. I was wondering about what the battery compartments were for but now I know. Very elegent solution to hiding them. What is it about railcars/railbuses that are so appealing despite there not beeing a huge number of examples of prototypes?

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:48 pm
by James from Devon
RylstonLight wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:57 pm The livery is rather nice under natural light. I was wondering about what the battery compartments were for but now I know. Very elegent solution to hiding them. What is it about railcars/railbuses that are so appealing despite there not beeing a huge number of examples of prototypes?
Yes, it's the endless problem of hiding dozens of batteries in our small locos! I'm waiting with hope for someone to invent a tiny battery with an enormous Ah capacity!

I think that if the bulk of narrow gauge lines had survived commercially into the 60s and 70s then they would almost certainly have employed multiple units. We are also used to seeing them on the mainline so maybe we all let our imaginations run away and we create quirky "might have been" models. Personally, I was thinking that my line would have built one for moving passengers if had existed for real!

Artistic licence! - I embrace it on my railway as much as possible!

:)

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:08 pm
by steamer68
Hi James I love the colour of your railcar it looks great on your line and you have done a great job in the battery compartment, I'm sure through time small and more powerful batteries will be available. :thumbright:

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:38 pm
by Todsmods
James from Devon wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:18 pm
Todsmods wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:06 pm Looks great
Here is a picture of the Australian railcar set i designed myself
NSWGR CPH and CTH railmotor received_10212728860830403.jpeg
Thanks and I love your railcar....what gauge is it?
10mm scale

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:52 am
by markoteal
Great work as ever! Loving the bus - very 1970's BR - The neatness of your wiring puts mine to shame ;)

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:04 pm
by Big Jim
Splendid.
I think you are right about the introduction of railcars on various ng lines. It never happened in the UK but it could have done.

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:59 pm
by James from Devon
Happy New Year Chaps!

I managed to fit in a couple of days in the workshop over the Xmas break so I have a little update.

Hope you like it. Loads more to finish but it is definitely getting there.

I have got the trailing car made up now, I haven't included lots of pictures of the construction as its essentially the same as the leading car!
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The roof sections have been bothering me for a while, I was kind of dreading them. I don't like plasticard really, it seems to distort in heat and this roof needed to be removable. I did consider making one from resin but the amount of silicone needed would have been really expensive for just 2. I tried out a new method and I am quite happy with the results. I like the roof to have a little texture as they would have in the real world:

Masking tape, sticky side up:
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I then stuck 24 sections of Mahogany stripwood (3mm x 5mm) to the tape using black lines on my bench to keep it square:
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Next step is to cover the model with masking tape and drape the roof over the model, in the correct place:
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Then I coat the wood strips in casting resin which gets sucked into the gaps in the wood strips which then hardens, keeping the roof in its shape:
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Once left overnight to cure, the roof can be removed and the making tape peeled off and then I use a palm sander to remove the excess resin and make the ends square which leaves a smooth roof in the exact radius to match the model:
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Another pair of bogies, one with lateral bolsters and one without:
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Then came the best part.... a run in the garden between showers, first time with both cars together. Really happy that all worked well:
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Back to the bench for the rest of the paintwork, wiring, lighting, detail work and interiors!

Thanks for all the lovely comments so far, very much appreciated.

Cheers

Jim

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:45 pm
by bazzer42
Have some more lovely comments - That really does look nice, love the colour.

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:52 pm
by Soar Valley Light
Hi Jim,

They look absolutely outstanding, the livery really sets them off. The view of them in the bay platform is really superb.

All the best,

Andrew

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:00 pm
by IrishPeter
I rather like those. Another cracking job!

Cheers,
Peter in VA

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:09 pm
by River Lin
Hi Jim.
What a fantastic method of fabricating a roof. Looks fabulous. Like I usually do, you want it removable. How is it held on. Mine have a thin frame glued to them that just fits inside the coach sides.
I might try this fabricating method with my next model if that's ok.
D.

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:24 pm
by Peter Butler
A real work of art Jim and such a clever idea of making a rigid roof. They look wonderful.

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:38 pm
by laalratty
Very nice, I love the removeable roof, not a technique I've ever seen anyone else use before but the end result looks great.

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:16 pm
by James from Devon
River Lin wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:09 pm Hi Jim.
What a fantastic method of fabricating a roof. Looks fabulous. Like I usually do, you want it removable. How is it held on. Mine have a thin frame glued to them that just fits inside the coach sides.
I might try this fabricating method with my next model if that's ok.
D.
Hi David

Of course you can use the roof method, I'd love to see how it works out for you.

On this model the roof is held on with 3 x 2mm screws, 2 into tapped tabs on the back just under the eaves (which will be hidden by equipment) and the other in the exhaust funnel above the cab which screws into a brass strip fitted over the cab roof.

Cheers

J :)

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:19 pm
by James from Devon
bazzer42 wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:45 pm Have some more lovely comments - That really does look nice, love the colour.
Cheers! :), there is, by chance a very nice bridge in the background!
IrishPeter wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:00 pm I rather like those. Another cracking job!

Cheers,
Peter in VA
Cheers Peter!
Soar Valley Light wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:52 pm Hi Jim,

They look absolutely outstanding, the livery really sets them off. The view of them in the bay platform is really superb.

All the best,

Andrew
Thanks Andrew... I built the bay platform with the idea that one day in the future there would be a railcar or two there :)

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:21 pm
by James from Devon
laalratty wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:38 pm Very nice, I love the removeable roof, not a technique I've ever seen anyone else use before but the end result looks great.
Thanks for that. really appreciate your words. I wasn't sure what technique to try, this was also quite quick, hopefully it will stand the test of time :)

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:34 pm
by tom_tom_go
Nice to see a new way of doing things.

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:04 pm
by markoteal
Ooooo - I like that method of making the roof - even a dullard like me could manage that

And I also love the bay platform - there is something about platforms like this and having either railcars or pushpin services operating from them - very branch line!

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:30 am
by LNR
I can only repeat what everyone else has said regarding the roof, and the shot in the bay platform James. All this railcar stuff starts the thought wheels turning.
Grant.

Re: My Winter Project - 2 Car Multiple Unit

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:18 am
by philipy
'fraid its another "Me too". The the whole thing, and the bay shot, just lovely.