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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:17 am
by ge_rik
I think you're right about only painting the edges. Inset window panes would be a nightmare unless you know someone with a laser cutter. Even then, fixing them in place would be a real challenge (I'd end up with gluey thumb prints on each pane, for sure).

Rik

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:19 am
by tom_tom_go
Easy option Jim, you will finish it that way rather than it being another shelved project :thumbup:

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:54 am
by Peter Butler
Jim, if you are using a paint-brush for the lining it will take forever and possibly be a little shaky.... depending on what you have in your mug at the time!
It might be an idea to try an acrylic lining pen with felt tip. I bought mine at The Range (white or gold in stock) but I believe there is a wider choice of colours on-line from other suppliers.
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It is possible to run the tip against a rule or follow the raised edge around your windows.

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:20 pm
by Big Jim
tom_tom_go wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:19 am Easy option Jim, you will finish it that way rather than it being another shelved project :thumbup:
Note to self....build more shelves..

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:25 pm
by Big Jim
Peter Butler wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:54 am Jim, if you are using a paint-brush for the lining it will take forever and possibly be a little shaky.... depending on what you have in your mug at the time!
It might be an idea to try an acrylic lining pen with felt tip. I bought mine at The Range (white or gold in stock) but I believe there is a wider choice of colours on-line from other suppliers.

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It is possible to run the tip against a rule or follow the raised edge around your windows.
I hadn't thought of them. I may investigate further.

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:06 pm
by GTB
Big Jim wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:25 pm I hadn't thought of them. I may investigate further.
The colour scheme looks good, but I agree about lining being dead boring.........

The color choice is pretty limited in the uni Paint markers, black, white, gold, silver, bright red, bright blue, bright green, bright orange, bright yellow and a fetching shade of pink. Tamiya also sell something similar, with much the same colour range.

The non-metallic colours are fairly transparent, so the orange might be worth trying, as it may look more like buff when used over a blue background. Silver would look OK on the window frames, as they are usually unpainted aluminium on modern rail vehicles.

Many years ago there were paint pens available for touching up cars, which came in a very wide colour range. I used them at the time to line and letter a large 7 1/4" loco. Not sure if they are still available though.

I generally use a bow pen and Humbrol enamel for this sort of thing, but bow pens are getting hard to find and the learning curve is very steep if you've never used one.

Regards,
Graeme

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:03 pm
by philipy
GTB wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:06 pm
I generally use a bow pen and Humbrol enamel for this sort of thing, but bow pens are getting hard to find and the learning curve is very steep if you've never used one.
Yes I've always used a bow pen for lining and when Humbrol was 'proper' , a drop of linseed oil to thin it and help flow. These days Humbrol doesn't seem to work so well for lining.

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:06 pm
by Big Jim
I do have a bow pen and have used it in the past, but as others have found the quality of humbrol paint is not what it was.
This is quite a simple job as all I am doing is picking out some raised plastic moulding.

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:29 am
by Lonsdaler
Just to echo Peter's suggestion Jim, I use a brand called Molotow. They do a full range of colours, all acrylic based, and several nib sizes. Originally produced for graffiti artists, I believe.

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:58 am
by FWLR
I use Sharpie Jim, really good choice of colours….You can get fine tipped ones.

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:07 pm
by GTB
philipy wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:03 pm Yes I've always used a bow pen for lining and when Humbrol was 'proper' , a drop of linseed oil to thin it and help flow. These days Humbrol doesn't seem to work so well for lining.
I've always found Humbrol straight out of a new tin a bit thin for lining. The tins I'm using at present work OK, but they predate Hornby getting their greasy paws on Humbrol and screwing it up.

In my opinion Humbrol doesn't work so well for anything now. I stopped buying it last year and now use Revell, but haven't tried that for lining yet. It brushes and sprays nicely though.

Graeme

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:16 pm
by Big Jim
In the words of Magnus Magnusson "I've started, so I'll finish".

Thanks for all the lining advice, I will bear it in mind for further projects. However as I had started with a brush and a pot of paint I decided to carry on to see how it looks at the end. I can always spray it again if it fails.


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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:29 pm
by Andrew
That's looking really fantastic, I love the prototype Deltic vibe!

Cheers,

Andrew.

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:34 pm
by tom_tom_go
Looks good to me Jim, well done.

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:48 pm
by ge_rik
Looks great, Jim. I envy your steady hand, especially on those curves.

Rik

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:20 pm
by Peter Butler
Worked out well after all Jim, congratulations on your staying power.

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:31 am
by IrishPeter
You have a lot more patience for lining than I have! Good job, Jim! I rather like it.

Peter in Va

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:06 am
by philipy
As the others have said, it is looking good Jim.

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:27 am
by FWLR
NICE………….. :thumbright: :thumbright:

Re: Railbus for the PMR

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:36 am
by IanC
I like your chosen colour scheme. Looks very well executed too.