Railbus for the PMR

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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Lonsdaler » Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:47 pm

Funnily enough, I've had one of these in shed, waiting for a 'round tuit' :)
It's been in the state you see it in these photos for about 18 months. It was originally track powered (so I assume 12 volt), but I've shortened the drive bogie from 060 to 040.
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In tests, it ran well with an 8 pack AA battery.
I also constructed more realistic looking bogie 'skirts' to beef up the underside, and filled the spoked wheels with filler.
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I have the deltang receiver, and also leds for the lights, as well as a soundcard. I think I just need to get on with it! :?
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Big Jim » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:07 pm

I like the look of that.
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Peter Butler » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:19 pm

philipy wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:38 pm The problem with it is that having widened it, the doors are now very obviously too low - they scale at about 4' 9" in 16mm, so I'm not sure its worth the effort.
I think the extra width makes a huge difference to the appearance and you have made a really good job of it... too good to give up now.
If you can add a strip long the base line to add height to the sides and lower the door frame I'm sure you can make this work.... you know you want to!
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by FWLR » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:49 am

Just love your rail buses Phil.

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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Big Jim » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:51 am

I was having a look at the railbus again last night. I don't think I will go down the route of widening it. However I think I might raise the body by about 1/2 inch. There is a handy bit of moulding low on the body side that should make disguising this a bit easier. The doors will need to be changed, the more I look at them the more I don't like the originals anyway. I will have a play around and see what i looks like, I don't want it to be too tall and thin.
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by philipy » Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:16 am

Jim,
When Peter suggested that, I thought, "Thats a good idea", but when I looked at it I thought again. I didn't fancy trying to extend the curved front and the rounded corners and getting it all to match. Then, you are right, it would need new doors and I felt that by the time I'd done that lot, it would be simpler to start from scratch!
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Big Jim » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:13 pm

The railbus now has a working chassis, I am not so sure about raising the body as the new chassis is sitting about 1/2'' higher than it was. The total height is about the same as and IP Engineering coach.

To be honest, I really don't know what to do with this project. I was looking forwards to starting it but now it is underway I am not so sure about it. It may get put to one side until the mood takes me again. I would appreciate others opinion on how it looks with the new wheels.

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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by philipy » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:33 pm

Big Jim wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:13 pm I would appreciate others opinion on how it looks with the new wheels.

It vaguely reminds me of one of the old ( 1980's?) track maintenance vehicles we used to see on the Western Region mainline sometimes! Like the seats though.
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by tom_tom_go » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:05 pm

I think it just needs some heavy duty looking buffer beams?

I like the seats as well.

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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Big Jim » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:20 pm

I was thinking the same about having something quite hefty at the ends.
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Peter Butler » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:27 pm

philipy wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:50 am
markoteal wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:15 pm Cheers Phillip - good ideas there - adding extra width
I may be going senile but bear with me..... if the doors appear to be too low in height, could you mark out a semi-circle in the roof directly above the door to give the appearance of an underground carriage with sliding doors? That would make it look like additional head height.
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Big Jim » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:34 pm

That is certainly a possibility. However, when I compared it with various other coaches I have, there is not much difference in the door height. Possibly a scale 6 inches lower. When you travel on some 2ft gauge stock you do have to stoop to get in so it may not be too far of the mark.
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by philipy » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:50 pm

Big Jim wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:34 pm That is certainly a possibility. However, when I compared it with various other coaches I have, there is not much difference in the door height. Possibly a scale 6 inches lower. When you travel on some 2ft gauge stock you do have to stoop to get in so it may not be too far of the mark.
Interesting thought. I guess it might have been built to a quarry loading gauge, but in that case the width would probably want to remain as the Faller original!
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by FWLR » Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:35 am

Heavy buffer beams here too, with perhaps a small skirt along the length, it looks a bit top heavy otherwise, a small skirt would even it up I think. :thumbright:

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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Big Jim » Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:15 pm

Heavy buffer beam

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I spent a quiet hour cutting and laminating plasticard to produce this. Three formers and then a few wraps of .010''. I think once it is extended around the body it should look the part.
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by FWLR » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:29 am

Looks good Jim. :thumbright:

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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by IrishPeter » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:12 pm

LIKE! It reminds me a little of the front end of the Walker railcars that were used in Ireland. The later ones had a skirt at the front to stop obstacles (like mutton on the hoof) getting under what was a relatively light vehicle.

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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by ge_rik » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:26 am

Could the sides be extended downwards with a skirt of, say, 10mm?

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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Big Jim » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:30 am

That is the current plan, possibly with a cut out for the doors to increase their height. So that there is one or maybe two internal steps as you find on a 'Bus.
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Re: Railbus for the PMR

Post by Peter Butler » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:08 am

Peter Butler wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:19 pm
philipy wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:38 pm The problem with it is that having widened it, the doors are now very obviously too low - they scale at about 4' 9" in 16mm, so I'm not sure its worth the effort.
I think the extra width makes a huge difference to the appearance and you have made a really good job of it... too good to give up now.
If you can add a strip long the base line to add height to the sides and lower the door frame I'm sure you can make this work.... you know you want to!
That's the way I saw it too!
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