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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:19 pm
by Hydrostatic Dazza
tom_tom_go wrote: Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:44 pm I do enjoy your posts, very interesting reading.
Super, it is nice to know. I am trying to make a wee story of a journey of learning, doing stuff and having fun.

I forgot in my tiredness last night to put up a pic of the cutting in process. I will add that pic now.

Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:00 am
by Hydrostatic Dazza
MAM fitted her coupling rods last night. A wee bit of opening out the leading rod pin holes required.

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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:16 pm
by IanC
Hydrostatic Dazza wrote: Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:19 pm
tom_tom_go wrote: Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:44 pm I do enjoy your posts, very interesting reading.
Super, it is nice to know. I am trying to make a wee story of a journey of learning, doing stuff and having fun.
I agree with Tom. I could never acheive anthing like you are doing, but nevertheless it is a fascinating account of your build which I am enjoying immensely

Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:35 pm
by Hydrostatic Dazza
The Red Room is a hive of activity in the evenings
MAM is working on her Lady Ann kit

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MAM swapped the cheese heads out for hex.

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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:42 pm
by Hydrostatic Dazza
I am all self taught and I am dim at the best of times. I have no trade, I left school at 15 yo. I think it is simply imagination, have a vision, then persevering at the vision. I just read a lot, give it a go and follow in the footsteps of others. There is a fair bit of self cursing and mistakes along the way. I am just starting this journey of Model Engineering. It helps that MAM and I have no children from previous lives. This is just a story of a choo choo and the Potters Orchid Railway. It is about having fun. We are pleased that others enjoy the story.

Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:40 am
by Peter Butler
I do agree with your outlook, far too many youngsters these days leave school/college/university with pieces of paper, no skills and worse, no imagination. Creativity is for us more senior persons.

Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:01 pm
by Hydrostatic Dazza
Peter Butler wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:40 am I do agree with your outlook, far too many youngsters these days leave school/college/university with pieces of paper, no skills and worse, no imagination. Creativity is for us more senior persons.
I am not sure if it is any different now then back in the "insert decade" past.
The denigration of trades as being worthy seems to be greater in recent decades. Flawed that is. However the youth now will have to change careers and jobs every 5-10 years. That is hard!
"You have a job and it becomes an App on Thursday"


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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:21 pm
by Hydrostatic Dazza
MAM is learning about her little choo choo
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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:26 pm
by Hydrostatic Dazza
All went well via a few annealings for the firebox copper.

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First time I have done this copper stuff.

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Then via the Citric pickle to the mill to start the process of cleaning and squaring up the ends.

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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:44 pm
by Hydrostatic Dazza
While I was trimming my fire box copper in the mill, MAM was working on her Lady Ann.

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Con rods on, after some sorting out of rough edges and bent bits to get all to move properly.

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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:15 am
by daan
Your copperwork looks great, Dazza. It will make a good firebox.
It's also great you can share your hobby with your partner, my misses thinks trains are stupid :lol:
And it's splendid that she's able to make her own locomotives! By the way: the manual she uses is also great. Is that book coming with the kit?

It's fun watching you two at work, you make good use of your workshop!
Cheers, Daan.

Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:16 pm
by Hydrostatic Dazza
The boiler making of a chap by the name of Rodger on another ME forum has lifted my aspirations for a clean tight work.
Machining my outer wrapper, getting all to .10mm for kicks and giggles.


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and while I was milling MAM was progressing with her Round House "Lady Ann" kit.

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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:54 pm
by Hydrostatic Dazza
daan wrote: Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:15 am Your copperwork looks great, Dazza. It will make a good firebox.
It's also great you can share your hobby with your partner, my misses thinks trains are stupid :lol:
And it's splendid that she's able to make her own locomotives! By the way: the manual she uses is also great. Is that book coming with the kit?

It's fun watching you two at work, you make good use of your workshop!
Cheers, Daan.
Thanks daan.
I landed on my feet with Mary Ann. (MAM) MAM turns her hand to stuff. She does not watch soapies and read magazines of fluff and gossip. We went walking in the rainforest on Sunday and she has the camera out, chasing birds and she ticked off a new one. That evening we were at the kitchen counter and I was doing some chores about the kitchen. MAM's voice rings out. "Exciting news, we got an "Australian Log Runner". :lol:
She gardens, Bonsai trees (which will look cool in the landscape of the POR), grows orchids, can weave and spin and does painting and pottery. She likes projects and doing stuff, she gets the books and reads and gets stuck in. Did I mention she can cook, my belly is evidence. What is very nice is that MAM prodded me to sate my model engineering, she encouraged me to get my back side involved with Heritage Railways as she understood it was suppressed inside me. MAM likes to garden and so the garden railway is part of this and we share the vision of the social occasions with friends and their families, food, wine and beer down the back with steam trains in the garden.
For some one to think trains is stupid, to think any hobby or deep interest in a subject is stupid is unfortunate , perhaps not understanding the intrinsic rewards it gives one. Watching commercial TV and the adverts is stupid in my mind. Listening to commercials has me wanting to slash my throat to end the pain. To me it is like sitting at traffic lights. Every minute whittled away is a minute of your life that will never be realised.

So what is not stupid ?

MAM and I get much enjoyment and excitement seeing each others projects and art etc. That is nice.

The book is the Haynes "Garden Railway Manual" It is a book I picked up some years ago as I had a small itch growing inside me with this vision of a garden railway. It has some pages following the build of a Lady Ann. I let MAM make this kit, it is not me on her shoulder unless I she asks or needs a tool location.

Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:40 pm
by Hydrostatic Dazza
Away all of last weekend and I will be away all this weekend at the https://www.maryvalleyrattler.com.au/ , passenger ops is getting closer.
Thus the Red Room action has been a wee bit thin, but MAM is working on her Lady Ann kit and I have made a wee bit of progress on the front tube plate. Inspired by acquaintances and their use of CNC milling I am using my rotary table, boring head and then milling the size down. So far all is working splendidly. I know you can chop one out with hack saw and filing and simple drilling but this was to advance my skills for other things to come in the years ahead.


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Next week I will bring it down to the final size.


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MAM gets a few more bits on

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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:46 pm
by Hydrostatic Dazza
No fun in the Red Room this past weekend, but a big weekend with the 12" to the foot scale at the Mary Valley Rattler. Crew training and ticking off continues. I got to light up #974 for the first time. All the crews on task, on schedule and smiles all round.
Living the dream.


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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:02 pm
by tom_tom_go
Great photo, it must feel satisfying being able to fire such a large loco!

Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:28 am
by Hydrostatic Dazza
tom_tom_go wrote: Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:02 pm Great photo, it must feel satisfying being able to fire such a large loco!
When I do the official over #974 to the driver and fireman who start their prep tasks such as oiling up before they take the loco out, the first question is
"How did it go, any problems Dazza ?"
My reply
"No worries mate, there is 120 on the gauge."
Their smiles were the most satisfying aspect of my early morning task.
It will be some time yet before I fire out on the branch, mean while I do more tasks and learning the road, which is a twisty and hilly branch line.

Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:33 am
by tom_tom_go
If you let the safety valve blow off in the shed is that a school boy error? I think I read that somewhere?

Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:59 am
by IanC
tom_tom_go wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:33 am If you let the safety valve blow off in the shed is that a school boy error? I think I read that somewhere?
It is on the railway where I volunteer. The safety valve is tested as part of the FTR (fit to run) exam. For a light engine move loco's don't need full pressure. on a preserved railway in the UK running at 25mph full boiler pressure is rarely required, Any discrepency when blowing off in service by +/- 10 psi is booked by the driver at the end of the day. We are taught blowing off is a waste of coal water and effort.

Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:55 am
by Hydrostatic Dazza
IanC wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:59 am
tom_tom_go wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:33 am If you let the safety valve blow off in the shed is that a school boy error? I think I read that somewhere?
It is on the railway where I volunteer. The safety valve is tested as part of the FTR (fit to run) exam. For a light engine move loco's don't need full pressure. on a preserved railway in the UK running at 25mph full boiler pressure is rarely required, Any discrepency when blowing off in service by +/- 10 psi is booked by the driver at the end of the day. We are taught blowing off is a waste of coal water and effort.
Yes, silly and wasteful if it blows in the shed. You will impress no body with the waste and noise. No need to have more than 100 -120 in the shed as it does not take long to blow up when required.120 psi is plenty to start the WHB pump etc. (175psi max on our C17 )
If you are stabled for a reasonable length of time, 50psi is fine, just keep the fire alive.
We are not allowed in Australia to bank the fire by the code. After dropping the fire, close the air operated ash pan doors, run back in the shed, fill it up, cap the chimney, next morning there is still 10 -15 psi on the gauge.