Try brass ( not plated) screws. Within a few months they weather down to a brownish yucky colour that disappears against the brown plastic sleepers. Countersunk are best but even roundheads become almost unnoticeable.Hydrostatic Dazza wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:32 pm I wish there was a way to hide, lose or disguise the screw heads fixing down the track. I will have to use stainless steel screws as steel here will be rust dust in 12 months.
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Snipped, Peter, "Cats are optional.... Koalas may also be suitable."
It would be Water dragons (Lizard) , Carpet Pythons, Cane Toads and Possums here. There has been the odd Koala here, due to the march of housing development, they don't last long, due to dogs and cars :-(
Floating track has appeal, however I am not keen of the extra work and implications.
Snipped, philipy, "Try brass ( not plated) screws. Within a few months they weather down to a brownish yucky colour that disappears against the brown plastic sleepers. Countersunk are best but even roundheads become almost unnoticeable."
Peco SM32 sleepers are hollowed out underneath, so the counter sink would have to be shallow. #4 G screw might work. I will get some samples and have a gander. At the moment I have sample #6 round head stainless.
It would be Water dragons (Lizard) , Carpet Pythons, Cane Toads and Possums here. There has been the odd Koala here, due to the march of housing development, they don't last long, due to dogs and cars :-(
Floating track has appeal, however I am not keen of the extra work and implications.
Snipped, philipy, "Try brass ( not plated) screws. Within a few months they weather down to a brownish yucky colour that disappears against the brown plastic sleepers. Countersunk are best but even roundheads become almost unnoticeable."
Peco SM32 sleepers are hollowed out underneath, so the counter sink would have to be shallow. #4 G screw might work. I will get some samples and have a gander. At the moment I have sample #6 round head stainless.
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MAM checked out the track bed, gave it a few adjustments
Worked out the start point, the only straight line on the railway, off the main line loop into the yards. String line and onwards.
Stainless screws going in but when I am next on a run around to get stuff I will get some brass.
For now it is getting a technique together and also some shim material such as plasticard to tweak twists and cant etc.
I was on the phone to a railway mate as I screwed my first Peco down since the last time which was HO. circa 1976
MAM swapped in the 32mm wheels and we rolled the first item of rolling stock on the POR. Not sure if we have accreditation yet from the regulators but sshhh, don't tell them.
Worked out the start point, the only straight line on the railway, off the main line loop into the yards. String line and onwards.
Stainless screws going in but when I am next on a run around to get stuff I will get some brass.
For now it is getting a technique together and also some shim material such as plasticard to tweak twists and cant etc.
I was on the phone to a railway mate as I screwed my first Peco down since the last time which was HO. circa 1976
MAM swapped in the 32mm wheels and we rolled the first item of rolling stock on the POR. Not sure if we have accreditation yet from the regulators but sshhh, don't tell them.
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Nice team-work and a very professional finish to the foundation. This is going to be good.
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Thanks Peter. Effing hard to fit it all in, Red Room Action is also calling me,Peter Butler wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:01 pm Nice team-work and a very professional finish to the foundation. This is going to be good.
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Grandfather also told me "it is better to wear out than rust out"
but I never expected to be worn out at age 54......................! All the bike racing and running and long 12-16 hour days working on my feet, and a few bike racing crashes did not help.
I am also involved with two heritage railways and I will be away Friday, Sat and Sun with steam prac and guard training at the Marry Valley Rattler , the restart is next year.
Keen to get to knock off time this arvo and lay a bit more Peco.
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The effort you have put into your base and track laying will all pay off when the trains start to run.
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Finished a braze on a frame, then it was down the back to the POR. Slow progress as I gather the tools and make a few drilling jigs and get a technique and sequence sorted. I used 0.30 brass shim to insert at rail joints, it gets very hot here and I am laying in the cool of the evening. Might also get the nice rhythm of wheel clicks. Brass screws are ordered and on their way to replace the stainless screws.
Mark I eye ball confirms the string line. "Looking good"
I am in the Red Room tonight, I am modifying my little sheet roller to be a rail roller. To gently preform the rail for curves. Smooth transitions and kink free fish plate joints are my desired outcomes. I have to make a form tool for the rail profile in a 1/4" HSS bit and then to the Myford with the rollers tonight.
Mark I eye ball confirms the string line. "Looking good"
I am in the Red Room tonight, I am modifying my little sheet roller to be a rail roller. To gently preform the rail for curves. Smooth transitions and kink free fish plate joints are my desired outcomes. I have to make a form tool for the rail profile in a 1/4" HSS bit and then to the Myford with the rollers tonight.
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With track in place it makes the run look so much longer.
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tom_tom_go wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:21 am The effort you have put into your base and track laying will all pay off when the trains start to run.
Thanks. I certainly hope so, when our choo choos (MAM's RH Lady Ann and my Llewellyn # 1)are creeping around with their Slomos spun up, at a scale speed without too much of drunken wobble while rolling over the POR tracks, while I nibble smelly cheese and crackers and sip a nice D'arenberg red while speaking all sorts of drivel with friends while their grand kids are running about looking for the hidden dinosaurs in the garden railway scenery while the aromas of coal smoke and steam oil (Llewellyn #1) is wafting past our nostrils on the breezes, while the Kookaburras sit perched and look upon us and wonder "what the eff are the humans up to now ? " ..................................................
I like doing a nice job. I suppose my chosen path of professional expression has a lot of detail and aesthetic flavour involved and so this carries over to my hobby.
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A highlight will be when the MVL bridge arrives and it is craned in and the track runs over that.Peter Butler wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:06 pm With track in place it makes the run look so much longer.
MAM has yet to start on her RH kit.
My loco is at least 12 months away before it will steam.
Crikey we might need to lease a loco till our locos are ready
A bit like the Mary Valley Rattler, due to #976 still being rebuilt, #974 was to complete the transfer from the Ipswich Heritage Railway Workshops to Gympie today and be handed over at the interface, but it was failed yesterday with a stuck open regulator. YIKES!
So no prac work on #974 this Friday for me, I was hoping to swing the banjo and see if I can land a shovel full on demand down the front R/H side of the 8 foot long grate. ( I seem to hook it to the left) Oh well, it has to be later. So just guard training this weekend.
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Curves are nice, Kinky Curves are not so nice.
Ponder.
I have this little $85.00 SIEG mini roller. Throw the rollers into the Myford for a little plunge in to add a groove, reassemble.
Insert Peco SM32 Rail and twirl the handle.
Happy am I, stress free curves with barely noticeable straight at the rail ends. The ends can be coaxed on a former with a block of wood if required.
I also test rolled a bend in the mid section of rail for use in the siding and it worked well.
The track gang will be in action tonight if the rain stays away.
Ponder.
I have this little $85.00 SIEG mini roller. Throw the rollers into the Myford for a little plunge in to add a groove, reassemble.
Insert Peco SM32 Rail and twirl the handle.
Happy am I, stress free curves with barely noticeable straight at the rail ends. The ends can be coaxed on a former with a block of wood if required.
I also test rolled a bend in the mid section of rail for use in the siding and it worked well.
The track gang will be in action tonight if the rain stays away.
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Nice bender...
I am always for bending rail before pinning down to avoid dog legging.
I am always for bending rail before pinning down to avoid dog legging.
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The bender is a commercial item from Ausee tools and I had not used it till now. The rail gets a wee bow in the vertical plane which is most likely due to the thicker head of the rail compared to the web, but it will pin down OK. I want to be able to shunt like your Loco does. Slomos are on ordertom_tom_go wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:51 pm Nice bender...
I am always for bending rail before pinning down to avoid dog legging.
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SSP Slomo, cannot recommend it enough.
Would not want to run a live steamer without one now.
Would not want to run a live steamer without one now.
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Agreed, SSP Slomos, there just has to be. Scale speed means a lot to me. I am visual offended when I see a NG or any loco doing an impression of Mallard on Stoke Bank.tom_tom_go wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:39 pm SSP Slomo, cannot recommend it enough.
Would not want to run a live steamer without one now.
I am now intending to fit a tender with a tender mounted SSP Slomo to the loco I am building as the water pump fills the space.
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Agreed, SSP Slomos, there just has to be. Scale speed means a lot to me. I feel offended when I see a NG or any loco doing an impression of Mallard on Stoke Bank in any scale, HO or 16mm or......... It thumps me in the cranium as "toy like" and I walk away. I am rather harsh eh ! I had a good chat with Terry Slomo and he was most helpful, including the tips with the servo to regulator linkage set up to get the sensitive control with the clever use of geometry.tom_tom_go wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:39 pm SSP Slomo, cannot recommend it enough.
Would not want to run a live steamer without one now.
I am now intending to fit a tender with a tender mounted SSP Slomo to the loco I am building as the water pump fills the space between the frames.
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The track gang laid two sidings last night. The reports is that is all went to plan. A key member of the track gang will be absent this weekend as he will be going guard training at the Mary Valley Rattler. There is a huge amount of work to be down, starting at the terrace the railway is on, new fence along the back of the property, the terra forming on the railway (the fun part) , then when that is sorted the full size human pathway, gardens, more paving laid (I detest laying pavers) for the viewing/seating area. Then the detailing of the operating railway can begin. So some years to go.
The weeds are starting up. A few passes of a C130 loaded with Agent Orange has been booked for early next week.
Planing has began for the mainline loop turnout is next and laying the station loop
The weeds are starting up. A few passes of a C130 loaded with Agent Orange has been booked for early next week.
Planing has began for the mainline loop turnout is next and laying the station loop
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The " Stop Board" is progressing a few metres each evening.
Brass screws have arrived and the stainless is being replaced.
a couple of spots the angle grinder came out with a masonry disc to knock some high spots off. But so far I am pleased with my first efforts with concrete. I will do the final fiddle to the top and line later (shims here and there) when the yard and station area is completed
Brass screws have arrived and the stainless is being replaced.
a couple of spots the angle grinder came out with a masonry disc to knock some high spots off. But so far I am pleased with my first efforts with concrete. I will do the final fiddle to the top and line later (shims here and there) when the yard and station area is completed
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Track work continues most evenings for a couple of hours. Another spot required a wee bit of concrete grinding to knock off high spots. I am surprised how little I get done in 2-3 hours. A point and a couple of metres down. But I am happy with the rail alignment, the top of the rail alignment is to be worked on. I am hoping to not have waddling locos and trains. A couple of spots of my form work is a bit out of line to what eventuated with the track, but no tragic mistakes yet.
Started to work on the top and line of the track, some Plastistruc was experimented with. Not sure it will hold up with the UV here but one day it will be covered in ballast. Hopefully before it breaks down.
The STOP board is now at the end of the station loop and soon the track gang is off to an adventure out over the wilderness
Started to work on the top and line of the track, some Plastistruc was experimented with. Not sure it will hold up with the UV here but one day it will be covered in ballast. Hopefully before it breaks down.
The STOP board is now at the end of the station loop and soon the track gang is off to an adventure out over the wilderness
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You seem to be moving along at quite a pace compared to many of us.I am surprised how little I get done in 2-3 hours.
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