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Browsing through images in Google I came across some side views of UK railway tank wagons and suddenly became aware of something I had previously neglected to do. Recently I purchased a pre-owned transporter wagon (see five pages back), and standard(ish) gauge tanker, which we discovered was made by Newqida (thanks Simon). This followed continental design, which is different to UK, but I just tidied it up and left it at that. I have just realised the UK ones appear to have additional diagonal bracing rods from each end to the centre of the wagon chassis frame, so I had to set to work to retro-fit these to correct the appearance....
When attached to the wagon I think it adds so much to the effect....

Excellent Petr, Anglisises it beautifully.

philipy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:38 pm Excellent Petr, Anglisises it beautifully.

Or possibly Cymrifies??

Either way, it looks great, makes a real difference.

Andrew wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:06 pm

philipy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:38 pm Excellent Petr, Anglisises it beautifully.

Or possibly Cymrifies??

Either way, it looks great, makes a real difference.

Diolch Andrew, I don't know why I hadn't noticed before. It certainly places it in context with the other stock.

Peter Butler wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:29 pm Recently I purchased a pre-owned transporter wagon (see five pages back), and standard(ish) gauge tanker, which we discovered was made by Newqida (thanks Simon). This followed continental design, which is different to UK, but I just tidied it up and left it at that. I have just realised the UK ones appear to have additional diagonal bracing rods from each end to the centre of the wagon chassis frame, so I had to set to work to retro-fit these to correct the appearance....

It looks great with the bracing rods, Peter, this was something I plan to do to mine. I wasn't aware it was a UK/continental difference, but noted that the bracing was common to the older wagons, while newer wagons appeared to have been fabricated without it - so it seems a good way to 'age' the wagon.

Time to get kit building again, this time a bogie passenger/luggage coach from The Lineside Hut. I have built several of their kits and they have all turned out well as the design and cut of the high quality plywood parts is perfect. From the picture below you can see just how many parts are supplied, meaning no additional bracing pieces are required, as I have discovered from another manufacturer previously. This kit even includes seating, overlays for the passenger section interiors, material covering for door inner panels, glazing, door handles and even decals, all for £47.00 (plus £5.00 postage). That certainly passes the 'value for money' test for me!
The only additional items to fit are bogies, wheels and buffers of your choice, which I prefer rather than paying for Binnie wheels, which I don't use! (Nothing wrong with Binnie wheels, I just prefer metal)

Peter Butler wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:54 pm Time to get kit building again, this time a bogie passenger/luggage coach from The Lineside Hut. I have built several of their kits and they have all turned out well as the design and cut of the high quality plywood parts is perfect. From the picture below you can see just how many parts are supplied, meaning no additional bracing pieces are required, as I have discovered from another manufacturer previously. This kit even includes seating, overlays for the passenger section interiors, material covering for door inner panels, glazing, door handles and even decals, all for £47.00 (plus £5.00 postage). That certainly passes the 'value for money' test for me!
The only additional items to fit are bogies, wheels and buffers of your choice, which I prefer rather than paying for Binnie wheels, which I don't use! (Nothing wrong with Binnie wheels, I just prefer metal)

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Looking forward to seeing how this turns out - I have a few of these to build when time allows!

Swiftly changing the subject, another kit arrived in the post from Dave at Sixteen Mills. This is one based on, and adapted from, his livestock wagon which I covered previously. He happened to mention this during conversation and sent me an image, I was immediately hooked!
The original livestock wagon, now occupied by sheep, is based on a drawing by Spooner and intended for the Ffestiniog Railway, although whether it was actually built I don't know. The changes Dave has made are to increase the length and height slightly and add an upper deck with with four compartments on each level, each having sliding doors for loading, in this case, chickens and ducks.

The kit arrived yesterday.....
and now has reached this stage of assembly......

I'm impressed by the fineness of the grilles on the cages. They must be very fragile.
Those chickens look very much at home.

Rik

Rik, the grilles are surprisingly sturdy and very accurately cut. From my experience with Dave's kits he works things out very well and makes everything fit for purpose. Since my last post I have continued with the build, while watching 'Time Team' on You-tube.... very relaxing!
The current situation is as shown below, just the roof and underframe to complete. I'm very happy with this wagon as it fits in well with my style, not prototypical but plausible.....

Here is the finished item complete with vented roof and lever brake gear, as supplied with the kit..... For comparison, the two similar livestock wagons together..... I really like the appearance of these, they will look well in a mixed goods train.

Peter Butler wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:32 pm I really like the appearance of these, they will look well in a mixed goods train.

They certainly will!

Thinking back over some of your past builds it could be a very mixed goods train indeed...

Andrew

A really impressive pair of wagons. Well done!!

Beautifully done, as always.

Returning to the freelance bowsider carriage from The Lineside Hut, as shown above, I bought one kit to try with the intention of buying more to make a train of all three variants. The first kit is now under construction and I am very happy with it. Meanwhile, I discovered a job lot of these same carriages for sale on eBay, along with another kit from a different supplier. I was successful in winning the auction and received a huge box in the post, which also included another Lineside Hut kit thrown in for free..... bonus! The free kit turned out to be a Ffestiniog Coach 20, which I have found on their website, and is priced at £120.00.... wow! There is a slight problem however, no instructions and clearly a few parts missing.
Having dealt with Simon at The Lineside Hut previously I know him to be extremely helpful, and following an email request to him I received a reply the next day offering all assistance I needed to complete the kit. I now have a copy of the instructions (all seven pages!) to be able to work out what is missing, but I can see already the coach, which is built to scale, is just too long to run on my railway, so I have decided to cut it in half, which means I need parts additional to the original, including extra balcony platforms, end panels and overlays, all of which Simon has offered to supply, as well as cutting new sole plates to fit.
I call that exceptionally good service and worthy of praise.

Peter Butler wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:10 pm Returning to the freelance bowsider carriage from The Lineside Hut, as shown above, I bought one kit to try with the intention of buying more to make a train of all three variants. The first kit is now under construction and I am very happy with it. Meanwhile, I discovered a job lot of these same carriages for sale on eBay, along with another kit from a different supplier. I was successful in winning the auction and received a huge box in the post, which also included another Lineside Hut kit thrown in for free..... bonus! The free kit turned out to be a Ffestiniog Coach 20, which I have found on their website, and is priced at £120.00.... wow!
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What a bargain! I spotted those also but my kit backlog is too long already!

As always look forward to seeing the progress on these.

That does sound like a bargain!

Really like you latest livestock wagons. I'm tempted to produce something similar for the PLR.

Rik

Hello Peter,
I have worked my way through all 2597 posts..
What an epic! Highly entertaining, and informative.

I have worked-out BURPS..

I think HIP is High Impact Polystyrene? - Platicard, I assume?

But SBR has me Stumped..
Some sort of plasticiser or bonding agent?

Please enlighten me.

Thank you,
Phil.P

Phil.P wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:07 pm Hello Peter,
I have worked my way through all 2597 posts..
What an epic! Highly entertaining, and informative.

I have worked-out BURPS..

I think HIP is High Impact Polystyrene? - Platicard, I assume?

But SBR has me Stumped..
Some sort of plasticiser or bonding agent?

Please enlighten me.

Thank you,
Phil.P

Thanks Phil, your medal is in the post!

1. HIP is as you describe
2. SBR is also as you describe and can be found on eBay by entering the letters SBR. Builders use it to add to screed mix as it is flexible and waterproof. I find it works very well in certain conditions, but not on all materials. It forms a skin around fine ballast (not aquarium sized gravel) and bonds to roofing felt very well. I have also used it on a timber base, which is not good, as the expansion/contraction of the wood causes it to release. If you try it do not be alarmed by the blue colour, that will disappear after a while. Use plenty to saturate the ballast completely. It is important to keep the area dry for some days to allow the SBR to set after a surface skin has formed.
When used correctly it takes a hammer and chisel to shift it!

Thank you for the clarification..

I will need to take care, as I am embarrassed, in the lump hammer department!

Phil.P