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Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:52 am
by Phil.P
Ah!
That well-known 0-3-0 locomotive....
Phil.P
Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:27 pm
by drewzero1
Phil.P wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:52 am
Ah!
That well-known 0-3-0 locomotive....
Phil.P
Sounds like something out of Far Tottering. An economy measure, perhaps? Cuts down on axle grease usage by a quarter!
You might have more luck modifying this model:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2109286 The hood details are similar, the buffer beam and cab roof are a bit different, and of course it's missing the second hood. Searching for "Gmeinder diesellok 600mm" gives similar results, though seemingly also all with only one hood. (It does seem like the second hood is shorter, and missing any louvers on the sides, so I wonder if it was just used for a fuel tank or toolbox or something.)
Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:58 pm
by ge_rik
The caption for that image says it's a Regner RSSB loco based on an O&K original, but not yet tracked down the real thing
NB see 2m20s onwards
Rik
PS Very noisy mechanism, Mr Regner .....

Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:48 pm
by SimonWood
Fresh from all of these centre-cab discussions, I was having a little read of the latest SMT and on p44 there was... well, more of an off-centre cab loco, this
Jung Motorloc at the Katwijk Narrow Gauge Museum.
Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:21 pm
by ge_rik
Why does it remind me of a motorised shoe?
Rik
PS Nice to see they've provided a drawing

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Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:57 am
by philipy
-steves- wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:50 am
philipy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:39 am
-steves- wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:50 am
I've been playing about with the grotty looking German one that Rik posted a pic of at the beginning of this thread. More for intellectual (!!!

) interest than anything. I'm
TRYING to see if AI can do anything to help convert the 2D pic to 3D, but don't hold your breathe, I'm not getting very far atm.
I quite like that one too. See what happens with AI, but definitively not holding my breathe.
Well I've given up on AI.... I need some AI of my own to even begin to understand AI!
So I've gone back to good old fashioned methods and this is where I've got to so far:

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If and when I do any more, I'll start a new thread, so as not to derail this one of Rik's.
Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:57 am
by ge_rik
Looks good, Philip.
As I've got the HGLW loco as a starting point, I'm just designing and printing the parts I need to modify it.

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Rik
Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:11 pm
by Phil.P
Rik
PS Very noisy mechanism, Mr Regner .....
I think some of that, may be due to the speed controller?
SW (amazingly) said she liked one of the Regner centre-cab loco's which was in a member to member sale, so I was allowed to purchase it. - The fact it had been converted to battery by Graham (Garden Railways Limited) with a RC Trains transmitter didn't sway me, honest!
It is fitted with NiMH batteries, so space constraints mean it is a little slow.. - I must fit a 3S Lithium pack.
I will dig it out, and see if it is as noisy? - It could also be the AGC on the phone, I suppose?
Phil.P
Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:16 pm
by ge_rik
I noticed all the Regner locos in that video sounded noisy. Not sure if it is the drive mechanisms or, as you say, some other contributor.
Rik
Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:39 pm
by ge_rik
I've now posted a little video showing how I converted it to RC and its first test run.
Rik
Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:40 pm
by ge_rik
This somehow makes me think I got a bit of a bargain - either that or this Phil Sharples loco is a tad over-priced. EDIT
It says it's radio controlled but there's no handset - so not sure what kit is inside.

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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134949875697
Anyone care to hazard a guess as to what that receiver/controller might be? With that large capacitor(?) it might be an early Deltang or maybe a Micron?

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Rik
EDIT - Spotted it actually says its RC but with no handset
Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:42 pm
by philipy
ge_rik wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:40 pm
either that or this manually controlled Phil Sharples loco is a tad over-priced
Yup, by about £100!!
Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:48 pm
by ge_rik
philipy wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:42 pm
ge_rik wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:40 pm
either that or this manually controlled Phil Sharples loco is a tad over-priced
Yup, by about £100!!
Correction - I later spotted it
is RC, though without a handset (see above). Still over-priced though. Even a new Micron MR603 is around £45 - leaving £80 for the loco?????
Rik
Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:45 pm
by Phil.P
£45 each for the loco and MR603,is £90.
A tenner for batteries, and other electronics..
So £25 for the build/paint.
Seems a fair price? - I would expect it could have been put together in a couple of hours, if you cracked-on?
There seem to be a number of EvilBay sellers who I think like building, and then sell their creations on?
Phil.P
Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:36 pm
by Old Man Aaron
Looks like the Ebay Madness thread could use a revival.
Your new loco is certainly a sweet little runner. Looking forward to seeing your unique spin on it.
Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:15 am
by ge_rik
OK. So things are progressing, albeit slowly.
After looking closely at the photo of the prototype loco, it was apparent that the cab isn't central and so, I decided to move the cab on the HGLW loco back by around 15mm. This required a considerable amount of hacking with razor saw and Stanley knife. The bonnets were duly modified and printed out. These were attached, together with window frames and the model given a couple of coats of Halfords plastic filler primer. So far so good.

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However, when the primer dried, I discovered it has reacted badly with whatever was used to paint the loco previously.

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So, it's going to require a lot more filling and sanding.
In many ways, it would have been a lot simpler to have 3D printed the whole body - but (like TV's Repair Shop) I wanted to retain as much of the original as possible. Ho hummmm ......
Rik
Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:10 am
by Phil.P
You could always weather/rust it?
Though it may take as much time as filling and flatting?
Phil.P
Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:25 am
by -steves-
ge_rik wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:15 am
In many ways, it would have been a lot simpler to have 3D printed the whole body - but (like TV's Repair Shop) I wanted to retain as much of the original as possible. Ho hummmm ......
Rik
I love The Repair Shop. always keep as much as you can
I have had this a number of times spraying over old paint. Unless you manage to remove it all, unfortunately I fear it might keep reacting.

Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:06 pm
by ge_rik
-steves- wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:25 am
I have had this a number of times spraying over old paint. Unless you manage to remove it all, unfortunately I fear it might keep reacting.
Me too. I've usually got around it by filling and rubbing down the affected areas, but it's always a bit of a gamble.
If all else fails, I'll just 3D print the whole body.
Rik
Re: HGLW loco tweak
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:19 pm
by ge_rik
I've now done a bit of remedial work.

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Still some small areas of filling and flatting to be done, but the worst crevasses seem to have gone.

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In the meantime, I've been painting some of the cab interior detailing. Sorry about the major surgery to the driver, but it's the only way I can fit him in.

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Rik