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METHSSNIFFER

Ashbury First Class

Post by METHSSNIFFER » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:16 pm

I bought a pair of these sometime ago to renovate. £20 each. They are now off the shelf and having attention.
I'm amazed how these have been put together. Believe it or not Bostik glue has been used in abundance and what a mess has been made.
From the pic brass door hinges have been used to weight the coach, two on the inside, one underneath.
Chopper couplings fitted of the accucraft type overwhelm the coach.

So the first plan of action is to deactivate the glue in hot not boiling water and disassemble it. The roof has come off quite easily using this method.

As a note this Ashbury kit retails at £72.00 and to glue it together with Bostick is scandalous. So I have MEK at the ready.

Fortunately the coaches havent been painted!

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LnBmad

Post by LnBmad » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:36 pm

Good luck ash

METHSSNIFFER

Post by METHSSNIFFER » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:02 pm

Thanks Matt don't need the luck. The coach is just falling apart nicely lucky its bostik and not superglue, that I am lucky about! Should have a pair of nice Ashburys at the end of it. Thats why Im building a couple of Thirds to match

METHSSNIFFER

Post by METHSSNIFFER » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:14 pm

An hour later the Ashbury has been stripped and all parts remain intact and now cleaning them of glue residue

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Post by METHSSNIFFER » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:13 am

All glue removed and ready to assemble

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Post by METHSSNIFFER » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:54 pm

Going to paint interor first. Now his is teak anyone done a teak interior before. I've done wooden interiors before but dont recall doing a teak effect on platic in this scale

Narrow Minded

Post by Narrow Minded » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:20 pm

Just catching up on this thread, can't help with the teak paint (but there might be something on RMWeb from the 00 guys?), but have to say that they look very nice kits - I'm looking forward to seeing how they turn out :D

METHSSNIFFER

Post by METHSSNIFFER » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:28 pm

I have some phoenix precision teak paint I will give it a base coat to see how it goes. This is what I want to achieve
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METHSSNIFFER

Post by METHSSNIFFER » Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:50 pm

Just been on RM web and joined they cater well for model making with superb articles Thanks

Marquis DeCarabas

Post by Marquis DeCarabas » Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:56 am

If you find that you have too much first class accommodation, I have a picture somewhere of a Third with First windows. I think it is 14 (old style) sat on the up at TyB behind James Spooner.

IrishPeter

Post by IrishPeter » Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:47 am

The usual provision of seats on rural lines was:

75% third
25% first

whilst the number of tickets issued was closer to

92% third
8% first

A few lines had a higher or lower proportion of first class provision, but not many. The Cork, Blackrock and Passage had about 33% of its seats allocated as about 20% of its tickets sales (and 40% of revenue) were first class, but that was due to the suburban nature of its traffic. The much more rural Blarney Tram on the other side of town had the usual mix.

Cheers,
Peter in AZ

Marquis DeCarabas

Post by Marquis DeCarabas » Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:28 am

What about 2nd?

IrishPeter

Post by IrishPeter » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:41 pm

Bit of a rarity on the NG.  The Ballymena and Larne had some tri-composites, as did the Ballycastle - eventually.  The Cushendall did not have second, and I am not sure about the Wee Donegal and the Swilly. I think the Swilly and the Donegal had third in the early days but dropped it when converted to NG. The remaining Irish NG lines, including the CB&PR after conversion to 3' gauge were two class lines.  The CB&P's high proportion of first class passengers was due to their pitching their first class fares at around a penny three-farthings -a little above second and a little below first class rates on the GS&WR.  This encourage a lot of 2nd class types to trade up to first, and enabled them to improve the quality of their third class stock to the point where it was about as good as most older BG 2nd class equipment. The Midland Railway of England did much the same thing when they abolished 2nd in 1876.

The Ballycastle started out with quite well appointed thirds - they actually had padded seats as long ago as 1880, but when they provided second class they stripped the cushions out of the remaining thirds, which gave them bareboard thirds, Manx style. Second class travel made up about 9% of those travelling against 8% travelling first.  

The line with the highest proportion of second class travellers in Ireland was the BG Dublin and South Eastern which had heavy suburban traffic out of Westland Row and Harcourt Street.  Thirds were about 65% of their total of tickets sold with seconds making up 20% and first the remaining 15% around 1913.  IIRC second in the 2nd class league table was the GNR(I) and third the little Waterford and Tramore!  All of these had substantial suburban traffic.

Cheers,
Peter in AZ
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METHSSNIFFER

Post by METHSSNIFFER » Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:15 pm

Marquis DeCarabas:89831 wrote:If you find that you have too much first class accommodation, I have a picture somewhere of a Third with First windows.  I think it is 14 (old style) sat on the up at TyB behind James Spooner.

Would be interested to see that. I believe the FR had one First and three third class coaches si Im one First to many.

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