Anyone had any bargains recently?
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I contacted Nigel Town for some clarification on the brass boiler issue, as it is something that concerns me. This is what he said:
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Brass is a problem to us I agree. My Archangel L&B engine started life with a brass boiler.
The boiler test code which we operate to (i.e. that of our insurers) prescribes the testing of copper and steel boilers. Boilers operating below the threshold (3 bar litres) are exempted from the requirements of the code. The recommendation for boilers below the threshold is simply that the boilers are fitted with a safety valve and pressure gauge and that these are tested every twelve months.
I told (SirHadyn) that I was worried about a specfic brass boiler of unknown age and pedigree.
If you flick back through the Isibutu articles recently written by Keith B then he explains in there why brass cannot be used.
The re-test pressure is different to the initial test pressure, we are asked to test at 1.5 times relief pressure, for an inservice boiler. This means a 40 psi relief Roundhouse is tested at 60 psi, my Archangel was set at 60 psi and I tested that at 90. However as she's an old girl, I've dropped the pressure to 40 and the test to 60 but this is to relieve the wear on the cylinders and valve gear - not because of regulation.
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I think that clarifies the situation nicely, with the 3 bar litres limit being the crucial information. A Lady Anne boiler holds about 350ml, and 40psi equates to 2.76 bar, so 0.35 x 2.76 = 0.97 bar litre, which is nowhere near 3 bar litres.
I shall continue to run my brass-boilered locos, but I will also continue to treat them with the utmost respect and ensure that they are fully drained at the end of each run.
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Brass is a problem to us I agree. My Archangel L&B engine started life with a brass boiler.
The boiler test code which we operate to (i.e. that of our insurers) prescribes the testing of copper and steel boilers. Boilers operating below the threshold (3 bar litres) are exempted from the requirements of the code. The recommendation for boilers below the threshold is simply that the boilers are fitted with a safety valve and pressure gauge and that these are tested every twelve months.
I told (SirHadyn) that I was worried about a specfic brass boiler of unknown age and pedigree.
If you flick back through the Isibutu articles recently written by Keith B then he explains in there why brass cannot be used.
The re-test pressure is different to the initial test pressure, we are asked to test at 1.5 times relief pressure, for an inservice boiler. This means a 40 psi relief Roundhouse is tested at 60 psi, my Archangel was set at 60 psi and I tested that at 90. However as she's an old girl, I've dropped the pressure to 40 and the test to 60 but this is to relieve the wear on the cylinders and valve gear - not because of regulation.
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I think that clarifies the situation nicely, with the 3 bar litres limit being the crucial information. A Lady Anne boiler holds about 350ml, and 40psi equates to 2.76 bar, so 0.35 x 2.76 = 0.97 bar litre, which is nowhere near 3 bar litres.
I shall continue to run my brass-boilered locos, but I will also continue to treat them with the utmost respect and ensure that they are fully drained at the end of each run.
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Or not as it turned out when I got a look at the slate waggons, they are Binnie Ffestiniog wooden slate waggons bodged to try and look like Talyllyn ones....SLRmidge wrote:Just 'won' off ebay : 5 Talyllyn slate wagons, 1 coal wagon, 2 Talyllyn vans, 2 Talyllyn coaches & 2 Glyn Valley wagons. Produced by Perfect World....
The carriages arn't good either due to some amaterish assembly, too much glue used and some awefull cutting of strip wood.

This is what one looks like after it was tidied up...
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Gorgeous!
I'm hoping to pick up a "Limping Lulu" at the Elsecar show to complete my TR 4 wheel rake (though I might try and get a Corris brakevan in the future) - whose crests have you used on those coaches?
I'm repainting the 2 ex-GVT coaches (not the Andel one) into Westwood & Loscoe livery, which as it happens, is not disimilar to the Talyllyn colour scheme!! (Same but black ends)
I still reckon that your bargain trumps mine, especially since I still have to arrange collection - lucky we're gigging in that part of the country fairly soon
I'm hoping to pick up a "Limping Lulu" at the Elsecar show to complete my TR 4 wheel rake (though I might try and get a Corris brakevan in the future) - whose crests have you used on those coaches?
I'm repainting the 2 ex-GVT coaches (not the Andel one) into Westwood & Loscoe livery, which as it happens, is not disimilar to the Talyllyn colour scheme!! (Same but black ends)
I still reckon that your bargain trumps mine, especially since I still have to arrange collection - lucky we're gigging in that part of the country fairly soon
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The crests are just from a scan from the cover of a book, shrunk & copied onto photo paper......Narrow Minded wrote:Gorgeous!
I'm hoping to pick up a "Limping Lulu" at the Elsecar show to complete my TR 4 wheel rake (though I might try and get a Corris brakevan in the future) - whose crests have you used on those coaches?
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