I can’t offer anything like that, unfortunately – I've long since removed even the couple of sidings I had (endless derailments at points). But my fantasy new line (when the old dear eventually demands we relocate to the Outer Hebrides) will, obviously, be double track throughout and include a precise representation of Corfe Castle station, with numerous sidings…
Semi-scale BR: The Modernisation Plan
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Thank you all.
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And the castle itself, of course...BertieB wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 12:05 pm I can’t offer anything like that, unfortunately – I've long since removed even the couple of sidings I had (endless derailments at points). But my fantasy new line (when the old dear eventually demands we relocate to the Outer Hebrides) will, obviously, be double track throughout and include a precise representation of Corfe Castle station, with numerous sidings…
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I did a quick, unsuccessful, search online for some data but from memory I imagine that, even at 1:26, the castle (and the hill it sits on) would be about the size of, say, a couple of double deck buses*. Which I guess is what you were hinting at.
(*ECW Bristol Ks preferably)
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I prefer the 4 car set ...... No particular reason, though it might be because I like seeing a longish train threading its way through the foliage.
Rik
Rik
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Painted a fair number of the cheapo 1:25 commuters, at last, who now populate the coaches (but sparsely). It’s a branch line (sometimes) so there doesn’t need to be more than a couple in each compartment, which seems to be about right visually. You can’t really see too much through the windows anyway — but any train now will not be obviously empty.
There’s some kind of profound, philosophical difference between attempting to represent hardware / plant / equipment (trains) in model form and people, I’ve always thought. A sensible rationale for this is beyond my reach, I’m afraid — but recently I’ve, erm, refined my position: years ago I wouldn’t have questioned that adding figures was, you know, clearly naff. But here we are. It’s the overwhelming authority of the forum.
And not too many in First Class, mind
They've just been blasted with spray varnish
There’s some kind of profound, philosophical difference between attempting to represent hardware / plant / equipment (trains) in model form and people, I’ve always thought. A sensible rationale for this is beyond my reach, I’m afraid — but recently I’ve, erm, refined my position: years ago I wouldn’t have questioned that adding figures was, you know, clearly naff. But here we are. It’s the overwhelming authority of the forum.
And not too many in First Class, mind
They've just been blasted with spray varnish
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Very nicely done! I do think figures are necessary, particularly drivers, otherwise why run a train service? I see you are planning a sleeper carriage too!
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Thank you. I’ve been toying with it! I had thought though that a few standing figures could represent enthusiasts at open windows (not leaning out, of course) but they’re too naff, quite honestly. The (sitting) Preiser clones are much better quality.
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I pondered putting a link here to the ‘Videos’ posting that includes the embedded, challenging new ‘Modernisation Plan’ YouTube video — but it might just as well be accessed directly here too…
I’d hoped to also include locomotive-hauled options but that will have to be Part 2, to follow — after I’ve received some more receivers.
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10 or so years ago I was involved in the Garden Railway Realism email group, where the use of figures was a very hot topic. The group's leading lights were definitely anti, but - although I could see their point, and concede it's a bit naff - I'm still broadly pro. I do aim for a certain level of realism, which (for the 20s Welsh Highland) means a lot of grey and black and brown paint, and rust, and grime, so I like how the clothing of passengers and other figures adds a little splash of colour. Wagon loads can do the same thing, and both aid the creation of a sense of purpose.BertieB wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:39 am There’s some kind of profound, philosophical difference between attempting to represent hardware / plant / equipment (trains) in model form and people, I’ve always thought. A sensible rationale for this is beyond my reach, I’m afraid — but recently I’ve, erm, refined my position: years ago I wouldn’t have questioned that adding figures was, you know, clearly naff. But here we are. It’s the overwhelming authority of the forum.
Ian Stock, one of that e-group's founders, wrote well, and often thought-provokingly about many aspects of railways in the garden (I'd recommend his book, The Art of Garden Railways) - I don't think this is one of his best articles, but you might enjoy it: http://gardenrailwayrealism.pbworks.com ... nal%20view
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Andrew
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Interesting article Andrew, thanks for posting the link. I completely agree with some of what he says, and it's difficult to argue with most of it, but fundamantally I come to a different end conclusion! - I like Berties populated coaches and I think the figures add realism, not destroy it.
Philip
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Thank you. I hadn’t realised it was already seen to be controversial.
Interesting (to me) that he runs through some of the arguments — and arrives at precisely the opposite conclusion. The one he doesn’t mention (as I found — and as Philipy suggests) is that passenger vehicles, let alone a whole train of them, just look empty if you don’t put a few seated figures in the windows — and in this case, it seems to me, it doesn’t matter at all that they’re ‘static’. As Peter says (and I can illustrate) an obvious lack of crew on moving locomotives doesn’t look wonderful either.
I haven’t done a particularly accomplished job painting the cheapo Preiser clones in dull, much simplified colour (largely) — but I have to say the overall effect is still much better than I’d expected.
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I think your Thumper really looks the part - well done. Have I missed a post about your sound effects? Are they only added to the videos, or have you installed a sound module? If so, which one please?
Phil
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Thank you. I’m afraid the audio’s just added in the video edit. My notion of using a thumping, ‘Xtra Bass’ Bluetooth speaker kind of fizzled out with the motorblock issues (and expense). I still fancy having a go, though — perhaps after a visit to the Spa Valley…
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That's a shame, it would be great if you can achieve it, although it would need to be played infrequently, to avoid annoying the neighboursBertieB wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:38 amThank you. I’m afraid the audio’s just added in the video edit. My notion of using a thumping, ‘Xtra Bass’ Bluetooth speaker kind of fizzled out with the motorblock issues (and expense). I still fancy having a go, though — perhaps after a visit to the Spa Valley…
Phil
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What’s going on here?
Philipy has kindly moved this thread from ‘rolling stock’, enabling me to also drone on about locos and any other vaguely relevant nonsense. Thank you.
It’s a bit crude but I like the chunkiness
Before coaches can be pulled (or pushed) by appropriate locos from the recently rationalised home fleet, I’ve become aware (again) that there’s a list of long-ignored repairs to plod through.
This fun-scale, ‘might’ve been’ Q1T, for example, required repairs, a bit of a tidy up (now benefitting from newly applied ‘mixed traffic’ DIY decals) and the return of its R/C receiver, which had been lent to other locos, as Deltang (and more recently, Loco Remote) had become unavailable. It stayed forlornly on the shelf for most of the past year or two. Strangely, that seems to be where most breakages happen.
But, at last, I’ve got some more (Micron) receivers…
Philipy has kindly moved this thread from ‘rolling stock’, enabling me to also drone on about locos and any other vaguely relevant nonsense. Thank you.
It’s a bit crude but I like the chunkiness
Before coaches can be pulled (or pushed) by appropriate locos from the recently rationalised home fleet, I’ve become aware (again) that there’s a list of long-ignored repairs to plod through.
This fun-scale, ‘might’ve been’ Q1T, for example, required repairs, a bit of a tidy up (now benefitting from newly applied ‘mixed traffic’ DIY decals) and the return of its R/C receiver, which had been lent to other locos, as Deltang (and more recently, Loco Remote) had become unavailable. It stayed forlornly on the shelf for most of the past year or two. Strangely, that seems to be where most breakages happen.
But, at last, I’ve got some more (Micron) receivers…
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The Q1T (or would it be a Q2 ?) is a lovely chunky beast.
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Magnificent! Why was the funnel so broad?
Rik
Rik
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Ouch! Partly because of Bulleid’s enthusiasm for multiple jet blastpipes (wide chimneys on Lord Nelsons, MN, Q1, WC/BoB). But also because, aware of this, I’ve gone and done it too big…
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Sorry, didn't mean to sound critical, I was just curious.
Rik
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Rik — Perfectly OK — Not what I meant to suggest. Always been slightly awkward about the funnel, it is a bit big.
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