This weekend I have been mostly building....Gravity Griff wagon

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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Binnie slab wagon detailing

Post by Simon-m » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:52 pm

I knocked this up on recently which is a Aberllefenni wagon from IP Engineering. Easy kit to make & a nice little prototype.
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I will finish it off with a few more bits of paint then a subtle weathering to finish.

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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Binnie slab wagon detailing

Post by philipy » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:39 pm

What a lovely little wagon, and nicely built too.
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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Binnie slab wagon detailing

Post by Simon-m » Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:33 pm

It is a little gem of a wagon, I do enjoy quirky railways & rolling stock. Infact I'd say all my railway modelling has been quirky to say the least.

My wife this evening wanted to study for her course so I have made a start on bringing the binnie slate wagons to life.
I have 6 in total, so I took out a red & a grey painted wagon. Both have been treated the same with basic halfords primers.
The whole rake was assembled & painted a good few years ago so I think the primer has hardened off.

I painted all the blackwork on both wagons & then used the same techniques I used on the slab wagon to weather the grey wagon I had selected. I've done it a little different to give variation.
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I've ordered some trenarren models slate loads to complete the rake & I'm now going to chip away at the rake a wagon or two at a time until this rake of wagons is complete.
I've a good selection of live steam engines but I think Lilla looks great with this rake of slate wagons. I'm looking forward to seeinging them complete on a sunny day.

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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Binnie slab wagon detailing

Post by Andrew » Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:28 am

Simon-m wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 9:33 pm I've a good selection of live steam engines but I think Lilla looks great with this rake of slate wagons. I'm looking forward to seeing them complete on a sunny day.
Me too, if a photo's a possibility!

I'm going through a slate wagon phase myself at the moment. The same as you I have some red oxide wagons and some in shades of grey - I love how there's a surprising amount of variety of tone in a rake of them...

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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Binnie slab wagon detailing

Post by Simon-m » Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:50 pm

Andrew its good fun making & weathering slate wagons. My next phase is slaters etched brass slate wagons to give the rake variation & make it bigger.

I am hoping the weather stays fine this weekend then I can get a few locos in steam in the garden. We are planning to start sorting the garden out after winter as my small railway looks a bit rough as the garden bit has overgrown & needs seriously weeding.

I've roped the wife in to help me so fingers crossed the weather stays fine.

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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Binnie slab wagon detailing

Post by Simon-m » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:39 pm

A new arrival today for the fleet. These go together exceptionally well, I do enjoy slaters kits, I enjoy making etched brass kits too I just don't have the time I once did. Wagons thankfully are easy, the plan is to do a slaters Alice class hunslet when winter arrives again.
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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Binnie slab wagon detailing

Post by Simon-m » Sat Mar 12, 2022 2:51 pm

We've had a opening in the weather & the sun came out, the forecast was for rain so it was a bonus. Taliesin was in steam today on the slate wagons & it looked superb in the sun.
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Incidentally, the trenarran models slate loads arrived this morning giving the wagons the weight they needed.

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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Binnie slab wagon detailing

Post by philipy » Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:22 pm

That is a fantastic picture!
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Post by Simon-m » Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:07 pm

Thanks Philip

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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Binnie slab wagon detailing

Post by Andrew » Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:16 pm

philipy wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:22 pm That is a fantastic picture!
I agree, a lovely looking train - thanks for the inspiration!

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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Binnie slab wagon detailing

Post by Simon-m » Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:37 pm

Your welcome chaps :D

Tonight I made a brief start on a slaters Ffestiniog braked slate wagon. They are a lovely well etched & designed wagon kit. I've built one before in 7/8 scale & they build well.
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I've riveted all the components & made a start on the chassis. I soldered up all the solebars & the centre solebar. The kit does have some extra parts that are purely cosmetic for the underside of the chassis. I've left those off as they are optional bits & you'll never see them anyway.

That's all for this evening though, might get a bit more in later in the week.

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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Binnie slab wagon detailing

Post by Simon-m » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:28 pm

I've had a few sessions on the Ffestiniog slate wagon & got it to a stage where I am now painting. I didn't really take many pictures during the build. The other one I have to make I will document a bit better.
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I got home from work early today so had time to get some primer on. I used upol acid 8 which is excellent spray primer that sticks to brass like that brown stuff on blankets. It's a lighter grey than the standard primer I used on the binnie wagons so it gives a bit of contrast to the others. I've added a red line for the Greaves, Llechwedd quarry on the centre rail of the wagon as per prototype.

I've started weathering it back now using mig starship wash. It's a good earthy, wash that I think looks good on grey. I slap it it on thick with a brush & allow it to settle for a short while before using a tissue & wiping most of it off. A few coats & it gets into those nooks & crannies. I've still a long way to go with this one before it's anything like. The deck of the wagon will get a spray of vallejo air rust before darkening areas with burnt umber & some powders. I might even ding it up a bit with a small hammer on some of the darker areas on the deck & add a little gloss varnish to give the impression of water sat in the slumped areas of the deck.

I will keep chipping away until it looks right.

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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Binnie slab wagon detailing

Post by Simon-m » Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:34 pm

I've more or less finished the slate wagon from Slaters. It's turned out rather nicely & happy with the weathering. Another unbraked version arrived today so I am already preparing the etched & cleaning it up for assembly.
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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Slaters slate wagons

Post by ge_rik » Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:32 am

Really good quality - very crisp.
Why is the middle bar on each side red?

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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Slaters slate wagons

Post by philipy » Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:45 am

ge_rik wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:32 am
Why is the middle bar on each side red?
Rik,
To quote Simon's own post bit further up," I've added a red line for the Greaves, Llechwedd quarry on the centre rail of the wagon as per prototype. "

I don't know the details but I believe quarries each had a different colour code to make sure they got their own wagons back from the ports.
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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Slaters slate wagons

Post by ge_rik » Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:46 am

philipy wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:45 am
ge_rik wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:32 am
Why is the middle bar on each side red?
Rik,
To quote Simon's own post bit further up," I've added a red line for the Greaves, Llechwedd quarry on the centre rail of the wagon as per prototype. "

I don't know the details but I believe quarries each had a different colour code to make sure they got their own wagons back from the ports.
Sorry, missed that ....
A bit like smearing dye on sheep, then? :lol:

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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Slaters slate wagons

Post by Lonsdaler » Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:54 pm

ge_rik wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:46 am
Sorry, missed that ....
A bit like smearing dye on sheep, then? :lol:

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I thought that was so you know which Tupp has been where?🤷🏼‍♂️ Slate waggons didn't err... y'know. Did they?🤭
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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Slaters slate wagons

Post by Andrew » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:06 pm

Lonsdaler wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:54 pm I thought that was so you know which Tupp has been where?🤷🏼‍♂️ Slate waggons didn't err... y'know. Did they?🤭
That's why the FR had over a thousand of 'em - they're like rabbits...

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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Slaters slate wagons

Post by Phil.P » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:46 pm

I have never seen a cute, furry, slate wagon!

Furry with rust, yes.

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Re: This weekend I have been mostly building....Slaters slate wagons

Post by Simon-m » Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:15 am

Phil.P wrote: Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:46 pm I have never seen a cute, furry, slate wagon!

Furry with rust, yes.

:D
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If they weren't so expensive I'd make one haha.

Funnily enough last night I built another start to finish in under 2 hours. The only thing I had done firstly was clean up the parts from the etches & stamp out the rivets.

I will post a picture tonight of the 2 before this next one hits the paint shop.

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