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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:32 pm

tom_tom_go wrote: Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:20 am Interested in the super heater, will it be coiled up in the smokebox?
It will enter from the backhead, over the fire so it is a radiant type and then down the left tube/flue, then bend up into the header. Then from the header via an olive connection to the admission T between the chests. No coils in the smoke box. The original design has the steam dry pipe passing down the water/steam space in the boiler. This super heater is my concoction. I am to meet the boiler inspector this morning before I start work.
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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by tom_tom_go » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:49 pm

Won't you have issues cleaning the flues?

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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:31 am

tom_tom_go wrote: Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:49 pm Won't you have issues cleaning the flues?
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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:35 am

Made a dash to see Mr Boiler Inspector. His comment after looking at my boiler, “I will f_-k myself if that does not hold steam.” 😊 Gave me my boiler number and told me to cook it up and we will do the testing.
The onlookers liked my workmanship so I was quite chuffed (pun intended) It will be a while before I can cook it up as I am at Gympie (Mary Valley Rattler) the next three weekends as I am on crewing roster.
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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by IanC » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:33 am

Well "playing" with the big stuff will be almost as good, but it can be frustrating when you have something that you're keen to progress. I know as I have had a new locomotive for several months now, but not had the opportunity to run it. Enjoy your time on the Rattler meanwhile.
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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by tom_tom_go » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:07 pm

How can anyone be too busy to not run a new train?!

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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by IanC » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:31 pm

Tom, I presume you've never been on the footplate of a standard gauge steam loco to understand how fantastic an experience it is? I'm not sure about Dazza's railway but from my experience most turns are rostered so Dazza probably has to turn up. I'm sure he does so willingly and enthusiastically. I have to turn up wjen rostered, as do most of our volunteers or quite simply the trains don't run! Having said that, I'm sure Dazza will also be keen to continue his excellent build. Until we find a way to be in two places at once I guess the progress on his own Loco will be slower than he'd like.
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Post by tom_tom_go » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:45 pm

Not sure why if I have ever driven a real train is relevant here? I haven't, and the prototype doesn't interest me as I just like running model trains outside. The one preservation group I did apporach was very clicky.

My point was that your life cannot be that hectic where you cannot find a hour to steam test. Surely this is something you would want to perform on a new loco to make sure it works within it's warranty period?

Anyway, back on topic I am interested in the super heater when you install it Dazza.

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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:05 am

IanC wrote: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:33 am Well "playing" with the big stuff will be almost as good, but it can be frustrating when you have something that you're keen to progress. I know as I have had a new locomotive for several months now, but not had the opportunity to run it. Enjoy your time on the Rattler meanwhile.

Yes, but for me the big train stuff comes first, serious responsibilities and I want to move up the ladder and be passed out Cat 2 and onto Cat 1 in the years to come, before it is too late and I get too old and feeble and thus I miss my opportunity. This opportunity is here and now, so I am onto it and it has been my vision to be on full size steam for 40 years. However, I understand and accept reluctantly that the 32mm loco build, 5" gauge locos and work on the Potters Orchid Railway is delayed. The need to complete the signal kits and install, the terra forming and irrigation system and then the walking pathways, steps and garden beds so the weeds can be kept under control will have to wait. The POR alone is a full year of weekends to get to a reasonable setup. Meanwhile the weeds have over taken again, one cannot see the track again due to lots of rain and warmer weather, it will take a 4-6 hour session to clean up, I have booked a weekend day 4 weeks from now for this. MAM and I very much want to have social steam up days on the POR, lots of good wine, beer and smell cheese, food and stories and fun
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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:07 am

IanC wrote: Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:31 pm Tom, I presume you've never been on the footplate of a standard gauge steam loco to understand how fantastic an experience it is? I'm not sure about Dazza's railway but from my experience most turns are rostered so Dazza probably has to turn up. I'm sure he does so willingly and enthusiastically. I have to turn up wjen rostered, as do most of our volunteers or quite simply the trains don't run! Having said that, I'm sure Dazza will also be keen to continue his excellent build. Until we find a way to be in two places at once I guess the progress on his own Loco will be slower than he'd like.

Ian sums it up, yes it is fantastic to work a steam loco from the footplate, being part of a team to make it all happen, but it is not for all and that is cool.
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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:23 am

tom_tom_go wrote: Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:45 pm Not sure why if I have ever driven a real train is relevant here? I haven't, and the prototype doesn't interest me as I just like running model trains outside. The one preservation group I did apporach was very clicky.

My point was that your life cannot be that hectic where you cannot find a hour to steam test. Surely this is something you would want to perform on a new loco to make sure it works within it's warranty period?

Anyway, back on topic I am interested in the super heater when you install it Dazza.
Tom_tom, I will get to braze up my boiler, soonish, but I will wait till I have a good free weekend so I can approach it with full energy and clear space, thus I will do a good job of brazing up my first boiler and enjoy this journey.
I am also still working full time and self employed and that can leave one a drained at the end of a 10-12 hour day in the bike making workshop. This week's evenings has seen me sliding into the arm chair with my new book and I am nodding off in 10 mins.
As for preservation groups, like most clubs, one can have a bad experience which can be down to just luck on who you first meet. Every club or group have the curmudgeons or those who feel threatened or pontificate to boast their self esteem, which is just simple unpleasant. Heritage railways also has it fairs share of egos ! Some times one just has to move on and try another group. Like I have in the last 12 months. The workshop and train crew at the Mary Valley Rattler are a nice bunch of lasses and fellas and it is nice. I am living the dream, I wish I did not have to earn an income and thus I could live the dream deeper. The hobby of railways, be it full size, or models and Model engineering is about doing it as you feel free and wish to do. There is no right or wrong way. Just do it and forget living or doing it for others judgment. In all , it is a first world problem to have .
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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by Keith S » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:52 am

Sorry to barge in, but there is a misunderstanding here.

Tom, H.D. can't test his boiler because he hasn't brazed it yet. This is why he needs to set aside more than just a spare hour. I wasn't aware myself that the inspector will look at it before it's brazed or soldered, but this apparently is the case.

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Post by tom_tom_go » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:30 am

Keith S wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:52 am Sorry to barge in, but there is a misunderstanding here.

Tom, H.D. can't test his boiler because he hasn't brazed it yet. This is why he needs to set aside more than just a spare hour. I wasn't aware myself that the inspector will look at it before it's brazed or soldered, but this apparently is the case.
Yep there is a misunderstanding as you haven't read what I said. I was talking to Ian about his new loco (Dazza doesn't have a new loco sitting in a box does he as he is building it). Ian hasn't steamed his new loco since he bought it because of apparent lack of time. If I bought a new loco from a manufacturer I would want to steam test it within it's warranty period in case of any issues.

Anyway, back to the trains...

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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by FWLR » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:45 am

I agree Tom, New train would get me to steam it as soon as I received it, no matter what. The weather would be the only thing to stop me running it outside.

Who has that much filled time in any day.


Great work on the boiler Dazza. And good luck with your quest to get your Cat 2 and then Cat 1 :thumbright:
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Post by IanC » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:19 am

Sorry to detract from the subject of this thread and any misunderstanding. I was trying to explain why Dazza might not have enough time to make progress with his build. As for my loco what I said was it hasn't run yet. That's because I am not fortunate to have my own railway. I have steamed it a few times on a rolling road. It was a second hand purchase and I took the opportunity to buy it whilst it was available as they don't seem to come up too often and this particular one had had some additional mods. I knew it might not run for some time. Because of other commitments I only get to run my trains around half a dozen times a year.
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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by FWLR » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:25 am

Ian it isn’t anything against you. It is just a shame that some of us don’t get to run are locos as much has we would like too. I don’t, but I am going to run “Patricia Anne” later. It’s a beautiful day.

Sorry Dazza… :silent: :silent:

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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by Keith S » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:43 am

tom_tom_go wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:30 am
Keith S wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:52 am Sorry to barge in, but there is a misunderstanding here.

Tom, H.D. can't test his boiler because he hasn't brazed it yet. This is why he needs to set aside more than just a spare hour. I wasn't aware myself that the inspector will look at it before it's brazed or soldered, but this apparently is the case.
Yep there is a misunderstanding as you haven't read what I said. I was talking to Ian about his new loco (Dazza doesn't have a new loco sitting in a box does he as he is building it). Ian hasn't steamed his new loco since he bought it because of apparent lack of time. If I bought a new loco from a manufacturer I would want to steam test it within it's warranty period in case of any issues.

Anyway, back to the trains...
I quite misunderstood the situation. My fault for not reading thoroughly. Shouldn't have bothered to comment. Won't happen again.

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Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:48 am

Friday arvo, clean 974, well at least the platform side.
It is stinking hot! 35-38 degrees and humid.
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Saturday light up at 3.00am
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Change into my guard uniform and did the am trip.
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After noon, off duty and had a nap in the guards van.
Stinking hot days, cold beer at the Aussie Hotel was so very nice.
Sunday Morning, lightup and then change into my kit.
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Then my first full two full trips as trainee fireman. (I have done a bit of firing but this a big step up)
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I was a bit rough but I got my swing better, landing the front of the flat 8' long grate on demand 75% of the time. Still to find my sea legs as part of the line is very much an Queensland branch line. AM trains on Sat and Sun fully booked. 200 punters on the cushions.
For the 1/50 return into Gympie I got the fire set right, starting the bomb up at the Monkland staff change stop 4kms out. Bombed it again 1.5 kms from the bank, needle was at 145, 3/4 glass and onto the bank we go, the needle came around to 175 and I had a feather most of the way up into Gympie. YAY! Beginners luck ;-) 7 on the hook (170 tons) Injector on once on the bank, and then for the arrival I bunged it on 300 meters before we crest into Gympie Station. I was pleased. A few guiding words from Adrian (Tutor) every now and then and I was happy chappie. Still a long way to go with learning the road. It is a complicated 22kms. We turn the loco back onto the train and have a 30 mins break. It was stinking hot.
Second trip all good but on the Gympie bank I had to toss 6 quick ones with 1km to go make sure we did not limp in, the needle was coming back. (can I blame the thicker end of day ash bed ?) I drank 2 litres from 4 am till 9.30 am, then over 5 litres of water during the two trips, then 2 more litres after the day and during the 2 hour drive home. Home at 9.00am pretty well knackered.
Did I mention it was hot.
No ME till I get the Reciprocating Steam Engine Ticket course out of the way next weekend. Lots of study this week before I am off again for a heavy three days exams and practical.
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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by Hydrostatic Dazza » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:15 pm

I have been away from the Red Room for some weeks. Big, long and hot weekends up at the Mary Valley Rattler.

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I have my reciprocating steam ticket. YAY! It means I can spend more time learning to be competent on the 12" to the foot scale choo choos.

I have some space and a need to spend some time in the Red Room.
Boiler is ready for cook up. I will approach that when I am more settled and have prepared some details.
I am looking at making a start on boiler fittings, gauge glass bits seem like a good starting point.

However I am seeking 9mm diameter hand wheels. Any one have a lead on a supplier ?
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Re: Llewellyn Loco Works #1

Post by Peter Butler » Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:16 pm

There is a wonderful 'traditional' workshop which makes fittings for a variety of loco model scales and may be able to help either from stock or made to order.... www.walsallmodelindustries.co.uk Might be worth a try?
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