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Re: Sawmill boiler house

Post by ge_rik » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:55 pm

Water Tower (for the boiler house) more or less complete now (apart from painting and weathering).
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Trying to decide, now I've put it together, whether it's a bit too narrow for its height. Might take a couple of cm off the base.

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Re: Sawmill boiler house

Post by Just Julie » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:44 pm

Brilliant work. :thumbleft:

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Re: Sawmill boiler house

Post by philipy » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:40 am

ge_rik wrote: Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:55 pm
Trying to decide, now I've put it together, whether it's a bit too narrow for its height. Might take a couple of cm off the base.
Lovely job again, Rik.
I can see what you mean about the proportions, but If you do take a bit off the bottom, is there a danger of getting the window too low and making that look out of proportion instead? ( I'm assuming the door can simply be moved up a bit?).
It might depend on its exact positioning when in situ, if it is positioned so that it can't be seen directly end on, you might get away with it as it is.
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Re: Sawmill boiler house

Post by ge_rik » Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:11 am

philipy wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:40 am I can see what you mean about the proportions, but If you do take a bit off the bottom, is there a danger of getting the window too low and making that look out of proportion instead? ( I'm assuming the door can simply be moved up a bit?).
It might depend on its exact positioning when in situ, if it is positioned so that it can't be seen directly end on, you might get away with it as it is.
Maybe if I took a cm off the top and a cm off the bottom?

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Re: Sawmill boiler house

Post by ge_rik » Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:13 am

Who'd have thought ........

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Post by philipy » Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:59 am

Strewth... and people think railway modellers are weird!! :lol: :roll:
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Re: Sawmill boiler house

Post by philipy » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:02 am

ge_rik wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:11 am
Maybe if I took a cm off the top and a cm off the bottom?
I hadn't realised that trimming the top was still an option, that could be a solution. Could try just sticking temporary black tape round to make a visual break and get the eye to re-judge things?
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Re: Sawmill boiler house

Post by ge_rik » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:34 am

Decided to take 1.6mm (ie four brick courses) off the bottom. I think it looks better. Just trying to decide whether to take another couple of courses off at the top.
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I know they say, "measure twice and cut once", but I decided to make the water tower while I was away in France. I had just enough foamboard with me to make it and so pressed on, guessing the dimensions. In an ideal world, I could have made a cereal cardboard mock-up first, but the PLR is a bit like Topsy ..... things get added as the fancy takes me - there is no master-plan.

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Re: Sawmill boiler house

Post by tom_tom_go » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:53 am

Rik, if you Google 'Bluebell railway water tower' you will see a newly built one similar to yours. Might help with your dimensions.

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Post by ge_rik » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:58 am

In actual fact, the idea for the water tower came after buying a French model railway magazine while in France (Le Train - Le reseau modele) which featured an 0-16.5mm line (see http://www.gilbert-gribi.com/GGribi/reseau.html ). His model is primarily a logging railway, with sawmill at one end and forest at the other. Beautifully constructed with tons of fine detail.

A mate in Tasmania also sent me some pictures of a sawmill near where he lives. The boiler for its steam engine was from a railway loco (image 22) and the water tank was its tender (image 28). If only I'd seen that before I started work on the boiler house!

http://www.grandchestersawmill.com.au/gallery.html#

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Re: Sawmill boiler house

Post by ge_rik » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:59 am

tom_tom_go wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:53 am Rik, if you Google 'Bluebell railway water tower' you will see a newly built one similar to yours. Might help with your dimensions.
Thanks Tom - yes, very similar. I might even start counting brick courses ...... :?

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Re: Sawmill boiler house

Post by philipy » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:16 pm

ge_rik wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:34 am Decided to take 1.6mm (ie four brick courses) off the bottom. I think it looks better. Just trying to decide whether to take another couple of courses off at the top.
I'd vote yes, FWIW.
Since its for the stationary engine you don't have to worry about loco height for filling and a squatter shape would improve it, I think.

BTW, I love the fire engine on that French site.
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Post by ge_rik » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:41 pm

philipy wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:16 pm Since its for the stationary engine you don't have to worry about loco height for filling and a squatter shape would improve it, I think.
BTW, I love the fire engine on that French site.
I'm thinking I might use it as a dual purpose tank - and position it between the main tracks (as per the photo) to also act as a filler for locos.

Yes, some really exquisite modelling on that French layout - most of which is scratchbuilt or kitbashed. Spent a few happy hours with a dictionary and Google Translate reading the text in the magazine. Amazing how many French words have different connotations depending on the context. I was puzzled by one bit that kept mentioning 'boudin' which my little dictionary informed me was a 'black pudding'. Turns out (thanks to Google Translate) that it also means 'flange'. I was also interested to learn that the French call the frog on pointwork the 'heart' of the point.

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Re: Sawmill boiler house

Post by bazzer42 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:02 pm

Just caught up with this thread. A masterclass in building with foamboard scribing, can't wait to see them painted.

What thickness do you use Rik? Do you laminate sheets for strength? My engine shed has a slight bow, I used a single 5mm sheet so not sure whether the glued wood is the cause.

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Post by ge_rik » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:35 am

bazzer42 wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:02 pm What thickness do you use Rik? Do you laminate sheets for strength? My engine shed has a slight bow, I used a single 5mm sheet so not sure whether the glued wood is the cause.
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I also use 5mm. So far I've not experienced any distortion. The water mill had a first floor which acted as a stiffener. I noticed the walls of the boiler house had a slight bow despite right angled triangular braces in each corner, but this disappeared when I glued on the roof. I use accelerator spray with superglue for some joints like the roof, when I can't get clamps or straps to hold joints in alignment while the glue sets. I'd probably use stiffening braces if I made a larger single storeyed building.

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Re: Sawmill boiler house

Post by Peter Butler » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:40 am

This is an example of the kind of stiffeners I use in my Plasticard structures....
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I would never consider using wood as it is sure to place uneven stresses in changing conditions and will certainly get wet and rot eventually.
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Post by ge_rik » Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:12 pm

Peter Butler wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:40 am This is an example of the kind of stiffeners I use in my Plasticard structures....
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I would never consider using wood as it is sure to place uneven stresses in changing conditions and will certainly get wet and rot eventually.
Thanks Peter
Useful info. Top and bottom bracing along the sides seems eminently appropriate for larger foamboard buildings as well (and maybe smaller ones too).

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Post by jim@NAL » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:30 pm

Iv done excaky the same thing as Peter with my buildings this works a treat

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Re: Sawmill boiler house

Post by ge_rik » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:16 am

First stage of the painting process now finished. Bit more tweaking and weathering to be done, once this lot has hardened off a bit. Also, want to do something to the interior of the boiler house - nothing fancy, just something to glimpse through the windows.
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Re: Sawmill boiler house

Post by Lonsdaler » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:32 am

Very nice tonal variation in the brickwork Rik.
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