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Post by philipy » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:40 pm

That refreshment Room is looking very 'tasty'. ( Sorry, couldn't resist that one.) :lol:
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Post by ge_rik » Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:02 pm

philipy wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:40 pm That refreshment Room is looking very 'tasty'. ( Sorry, couldn't resist that one.) :lol:
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Post by LNR » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:42 am

Nice! waiting to see your approach to the enamel signs.
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Post by tom_tom_go » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:33 am

Very convincing panelling there Rik, they actually look like wood.

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Post by Peter Butler » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:33 pm

Just re-visited this thread Rik and really impressed with the glazed door panels, how are the made and would they be waterproof?
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Post by ge_rik » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:27 am

tom_tom_go wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:33 am Very convincing panelling there Rik, they actually look like wood.
Thanks Tom, pinched the idea from Peter Butler - scribed with a razor saw.

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Post by ge_rik » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:31 am

Peter Butler wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:33 pm Just re-visited this thread Rik and really impressed with the glazed door panels, how are the made and would they be waterproof?
I hope they will be weather resistant, Peter. Drawn in PowerPoint, printed on to clear self adhesive film and then stuck to the inside of the glazing - so hopefully, should survive the elements. If not, takes five minutes to reprint.

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Post by ge_rik » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:59 pm

LNR wrote: Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:42 am Nice! waiting to see your approach to the enamel signs.
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The text-based signs were composed as Text Boxes in MS Word, printed on to self adhesive vinyl sheet, covered in clear sticky-backed plastic and either fixed directly to the boards or fixed to 0.5mm thick plasticard and glued on. The 'Lyons' and 'Wills' enamel signs were downloaded as images from the internet and their perspectives adjusted in Serif Draw Plus to make them square-on. They were then printed and mounted as above. Still awaiting delivery of the filigree panel and need to make the roof and the interior, but getting closer to finishing.

Incidentally, I downloaded the Wills sign from an auction site in Australia - looks like these signs got about a bit....
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Post by Peter Butler » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:31 pm

That is a stunning piece of work Rik, the building has character but you have captured the texture and feel of the material so well it all looks completely convincing.
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Post by philipy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:53 am

Amazing Rik, a beautiful piece of work.

I know you said at the start that it would have an interior "eventually", but with those large windows it really is crying out for one ( and some lighting?).
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Post by LNR » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:42 am

Many thanks for the information re the enamel signs Rik. I shall have to investigate the vinyl sheet. I figure you guys should be able to test weathering characteristics of an article far quicker than we can, given your weather conditions. The building is looking very good.
I have been using standard paper printed signs soaked all the way through in varnish, glued onto galv. sheet metal, then 3 coats of varnish. It certainly gives them the high gloss of enamel signs and has lasted well.
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PS have you managed to sort out your Nippies yet :shock: :shock:

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Post by ge_rik » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:37 am

LNR wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:42 am Many thanks for the information re the enamel signs Rik. I shall have to investigate the vinyl sheet. I figure you guys should be able to test weathering characteristics of an article far quicker than we can, given your weather conditions. The building is looking very good.
I have been using standard paper printed signs soaked all the way through in varnish, glued onto galv. sheet metal, then 3 coats of varnish. It certainly gives them the high gloss of enamel signs and has lasted well.
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PS have you managed to sort out your Nippies yet :shock: :shock:
Thanks for the description of your approach to enamel signs. I'll let you know how this approach fares but I suspect they will become delaminated before too long.
No, not thought about the Nippies, yet. I need to makes some tables and chairs and a kitchen for them to run between.

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Re: Refreshment building

Post by philipy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:24 am

ge_rik wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:37 am
LNR wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:42 am
I have been using standard paper printed signs soaked all the way through in varnish, glued onto galv. sheet metal, then 3 coats of varnish. It certainly gives them the high gloss of enamel signs and has lasted well.
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I'll let you know how this approach fares but I suspect they will become delaminated before too long.


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FWIW, I've used varnish soaked inkjet printed paper signs in several locations and they don't survive more than about 18 months before becoming unreadable. I redid them by laser printing on vinyl sheet and so far they look OK after about a year.
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Re: Refreshment building

Post by philipy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:25 am

philipy wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:24 am
ge_rik wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:37 am
LNR wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:42 am
I have been using standard paper printed signs soaked all the way through in varnish, glued onto galv. sheet metal, then 3 coats of varnish. It certainly gives them the high gloss of enamel signs and has lasted well.
Grant.
I'll let you know how this approach fares but I suspect they will become delaminated before too long.


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Guys,

FWIW, I've used varnish soaked inkjet printed paper signs in several locations and they don't survive more than about 18 months before becoming unreadable. I redid them by laser printing on vinyl sheet 'paper', and so far they look OK after about a year.
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Post by LNR » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:00 am

Maybe it does depend on the weather, this sign has been hanging on the fence for 8 years now, and since looking at this pic. I see it is just starting to deteriorate at the top right.
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This one is more recent, been there for 4 1/2 years.
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The last one represents a paper sign that I figure would be replaced every so often in real life anyhow, it was Bushells Tea before this.
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Post by ge_rik » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:54 am

It's been a while since an update on this project. The main reason being that I have been awaiting the delivery of the laser-cut filigree panel which goes above the door. That arrived last week and so I've installed it and finished off the roof (which is only temporarily fixed in place until I finish off the interior)
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More info on the build on my blog - https://riksrailway.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... -room.html

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Re: Refreshment building

Post by Lonsdaler » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:56 am

That is sublime, Rik. Absolutely fantastic.
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Re: Refreshment building

Post by Peter Butler » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:15 pm

Excellent work Rik, superb detailing and finish. Paper based signs will certainly have limited life expectancy but can be protected by first sticking to plastic card with double sided adhesive then wrapping with sticky-back plastic, in true Blue Peter style! As long as all edges and corners are well covered to keep moisture at bay they should last. I have some in use which have survived our wet 'Summer' this year.....
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A final coating on the reverse with impact adhesive will help seal the joins and bond to the structure.
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Re: Refreshment building

Post by philipy » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:43 pm

Beautiful Rik, Well done. Can we see a shot of it in situ, please?

P.S... Love the "Nippy" :D
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Re: Refreshment building

Post by tom_tom_go » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:05 pm

I like how you have made the roof Rik and I might use that method as it's easier than using bake bean cans for buildings I bring in over the winter.

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