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Post by dewintondave » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:23 am

invicta280:108266 wrote:Impressive model engineering Dave. Looks spectacular in the bare metal. Are you going to paint it NZR red?

btw are you a NI man or a southerner?
Thank you! NZR red-ish...

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I'm up in the big smoke of the North Island
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Post by dewintondave » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:46 am

Well, I've finally got a cooling fan to try out, but first I thought I'd better fit the front grille. I didn't want to solder it directly in so had to cut out a steel retaining piece which sandwiches the mesh and is held in place with screws. Two days of sawing, filing, drilling and tapping.

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Post by GTB » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:38 am

dewintondave:108517 wrote: Two days of sawing, filing, drilling and tapping.
'Fess up, you enjoy that sort of thing or you wouldn't be building a live DM......... ;)

It's looking good, but the engine doors do look a bit plain. Queensland cane tram style mesh openings might be worth considering as an alternative to louvres.

Coincidentally, your countryman Paul Berntsen has an article in the current issue of Narrow Gauge Downunder, showing how he built a 16mm scale Fowler PM. As is his way, he made a punch for forming louvres in the engine doors.

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Post by dewintondave » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:11 am

GTB:108523 wrote:'Fess up, you enjoy that sort of thing or you wouldn't be building a live DM......... ;)
Oh, I do enjoy it.

It'll be time for some wiring soon.
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Post by dewintondave » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:24 am

The project was slowed up by a slow delivery from Germany.  I ended up fitting a centrifugal type blower fan to blow air across the cylinder fins.  In all fairness the fan from Germany is excellent and almost silent (but I'm not using it after all, it's an axial type).  Though having thought about it, silence isn't important in a live diesel set-up.

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To help expel hot air from under the bonnet and through the mesh, I have installed two small fans at the top of the grille.

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I need to sort out the electrics now.  The fans are all 12V dc types
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Post by Big Jim » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:48 pm

Hello Dave,
I was reading this thread yesterday and was wondering when you would post more delights.
Any idea on a livery yet?
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Post by dewintondave » Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:06 pm

Big Jim:109590 wrote:Hello Dave,
I was reading this thread yesterday and was wondering when you would post more delights.
Any idea on a livery yet?
Thanks Jim. Just a basic red colour scheme, nothing fancy, this is a fun loco
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Post by dewintondave » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:01 am

It's only a small issue, but I accidentally blew the 2.5V bulb in the headlamp by applying 6V to it. When I went to replace it, the new bulb was a good 1mm longer. It turns out that the original bulb was malformed and too short. I based the whole headlamp around that bulb, so I had to make an extender cap to fit over the rear cover. I've shifted to using 5.4 V bulbs from eBay now...

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I've got a neat PWM controller from eBay to dim the headlight. I've been unsoldering the potentiometer from the PCB to remote mount it behind the headlight, I need the PCB to be horizontal.

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Post by dewintondave » Sat May 23, 2015 10:47 am

Finally, I have something to show. The cooling arrangements have been wired-up and connected.

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As soon as the bonnet is fully slid onto the loco the blue micro switch powers-up all the electrics. The electrical connector provides power for the loco mounted blower. There are 4 AA cells in the battery holder. The toy-like smooth exterior has been preserved with no through bonnet fixings for all the bits and pieces.

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Post by dewintondave » Fri May 29, 2015 10:56 am

Here's a small video of the bonnet/hood in operation. The two small axial fans on the front take about 50 seconds to reach top speed, it must be a feature of their brushless controllers.

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Post by dewintondave » Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:37 pm

I don't want to have to remove the cooling hood when topping up the fuel so I've mounted an extension filler pipe on the right-hand side behind the buffer beam.

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Some people ask if I have any drawings, well here's a circuit diagram I drew to work out the electrics. I didn't use the switch in the blower wiring in the end.

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Post by Keith S » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:20 am

This is pretty much the best locomotive build I have ever seen.

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Post by Maple » Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:58 am

This project is brilliant, i would love to give it a try one day. However still working on wild rose and idris. True Insperation
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Post by dewintondave » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:32 am

Thank you guys.

I've just finalised the filler. The pipe needed holding place to resist the filler connection force.

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Post by dewintondave » Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:07 am

At last we had a break from the rain and I was able to test the cooling fans for the first time in use. The fans appear to be effective. After the run, (the tankful was consumed after 17 minutes) fans were left running for a while, and the cylinder head was just warm. The bonnet / hood rattled at times. From analysis after the run, I found that the motor was running 30% too fast, and the loco was doing about 6.5 scale MPH.

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Post by dewintondave » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:03 am

A while ago I bought a small LED torch/Flashlight on eBay. I thought I'd use it for the headlight, but it was rather small. I've just finished converting it to use as the rear light for shunting and reverse running.

Here's what I bought:

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I'm just using the LED, reflector, and bezel. This was a single AA cell torch. Interestingly there is a small PCBA that steps up the voltage to 3.7 V. I'm not going to use it as I'll be using the blowers 12 V supply with a step-down module.

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This light is very bright, and a cold white. But it responds well to the PWM dimmer. The wiring still needs arranging.

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Post by Dannypenguin » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:42 pm

Awesome build :thumbright:
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Post by dewintondave » Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:33 am

Dannypenguin:111545 wrote:Awesome build :thumbright:
Thanks mate.

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Finally, I have started painting. I bought a benchtop convection oven, on special offer, to bake the paint after initial drying. The setting I'm using is 90 deg C for one hour. The paint is coming out nice and hard.

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Because I'm not using an undercoat, the red is coming out quite a nice dark shade
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Post by Maple » Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:34 am

im getting very jealous Dave. Looks like a cracking loco. Enjoy Painting :)
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