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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

Post by SimonWood » Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:21 pm

philipy wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:25 pm
SimonWood wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:20 pm I think the frames are dummies so the axleboxes aren't actually designed to keep the axles in the frame, instead there is an internal frame (#3 in the instructions). Seems like you're going to get ahead of me in building this so let me know if I've got that right!
Exactly right Simon. If you build it for 32mm be careful about the frame positions/spacers and the buffer beam. I got it wrong and spaced them for 45mm!
Thanks Philip. I'm 32mm (or at least my railway is :lol: ) so that's good to know.
FWLR wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:31 am I printed this flat before you posted about doing all yours upright.
Rod, I meant to add that like you I printed these flat. I decided that it would need supports which would detract from the finish more than I'd gain by doing it that way. My prints look very similar to yours:

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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

Post by FWLR » Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:12 pm

Thanks Simon and Philip.

Is this the blank you are talking about. And do I need to shorter the length of it for the buffers, or do the buffers go outside of the frame, that would mean it doesn't need to be shortened than would it..

The instructions in the read me file doesn't really tell you anything, only that it is done by clarionut:

When fitted do those little tabs disappear in the false frame ...

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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

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FWLR wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:12 pm The instructions in the read me file doesn't really tell you anything, only that it is done by clarionut:
Not sure I can answer those specific Qs until I've figured it out myself, but as I say, the instructions in the arockStone original are what I think you need to follow, you'll also need some of the files from the original as those that have not been modified by clarionut aren't included in the remix.

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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

Post by SimonWood » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:51 pm

Going right back to the beginning of this thread...
SimonWood wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:08 pm
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Standard resolution (PLA layer height 0.18mm) - print time 40 minutes

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Hyper resolution (PLA layer height 0.08mm) - print time 1 hour 57 minutes
I said I'd post a pic of these once primed - to show up the difference in print quality better - and I've finally got round to it. Hopefully you can see which is which, in both cases the handles need some cleaning up but the main body of the hyper print needs nothing more. The pic is combined with primed ABS prints of both Steve's original oil barrel and Philip's open top remix...

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Then there was this...

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Hopefully what this pic shows is that, once primed, the print lines are visible but scarcely so (the cow was printed in PLA at hyper resolution). There are some rough bits around the head and back from the supports and a tiny bit of stringing but so little that, given we're talking about a hairy animal, it's not going to need much of a cleanup!

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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

Post by -steves- » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:58 pm

The cow looks great, ice job there. :thumbup:

Would you say it's worth the extra print time for the extra resolution? I assume it uses the exact same amount of filament, so the only difference is time against quality? :dontknow:
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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

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-steves- wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:58 pm The cow looks great, ice job there. :thumbup:

Would you say it's worth the extra print time for the extra resolution? I assume it uses the exact same amount of filament, so the only difference is time against quality? :dontknow:
I think the HQ preset may infill slightly more but essentially it is just time, yes. I'm not convinced it's worth the extra time in all cases, but sometimes if I've got the time it's seems like I might as well, if it's going to be visible. That said I can't tell which churn is which from more than a couple of feet away... and how often am I going to be peering at them closely?

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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

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SimonWood wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:05 pm
-steves- wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:58 pm The cow looks great, ice job there. :thumbup:

Would you say it's worth the extra print time for the extra resolution? I assume it uses the exact same amount of filament, so the only difference is time against quality? :dontknow:
I think the HQ preset may infill slightly more but essentially it is just time, yes. I'm not convinced it's worth the extra time in all cases, but sometimes if I've got the time it's seems like I might as well, if it's going to be visible. That said I can't tell which churn is which from more than a couple of feet away... and how often am I going to be peering at them closely?
My standard printing is done at 0.1mm on an Ender 5 Pro, any idea what that will go down to for a test to see what happens? I don't have a clue as I have never changed it :lol: OK, just checked, 0.06 mm is what they recommend for high quality.

My monprice I have printing at 0.0437mm layer height, which is as good as it gets for that.
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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

Post by philipy » Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:10 pm

My Qidi standard layer height is 0.18 and most of the stuff I've printed and shown on the forum has been at that, but recently I've tended to go down to 0.1.
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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

Post by SimonWood » Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:28 pm

What differences does it make to the time taken for your printers? Mine seems to take around 3x as long for 0.08mm as for 0.18mm.

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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

Post by philipy » Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:46 pm

tbh I've never done an actual timed print comparison. I've simply got used to things always taking longer than I want/expect. Since I changed down to 0.1 I think there have been a couple of times when the projected print time seemed longer than I was prepared to give it and changed up, but I can't even remember what I was doing now.

However I've just looked at my remixed open topped barrel and the slicer gives projected times of 3hr 27mins at 0.1 and 1hr 58mins at 0.18. Its usually pretty accurate so I'd guess those are pretty good, give or take a few mins. That's using PLA and with a 5mm wide brim.
Doing it at your 0.08 ( which I've never tried in reality) it projects 4hr 17mins.
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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

Post by SimonWood » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:43 pm

philipy wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:46 pm However I've just looked at my remixed open topped barrel and the slicer gives projected times of 3hr 27mins at 0.1 and 1hr 58mins at 0.18. Its usually pretty accurate so I'd guess those are pretty good, give or take a few mins. That's using PLA and with a 5mm wide brim.
Doing it at your 0.08 ( which I've never tried in reality) it projects 4hr 17mins.
Interesting - the time factor for your printer increasing the resolution is more efficient than mine... but it's of a similar order.

I didn't print your open barrel in PLA (I used ABS) but I've just loaded it into my slider to see what it says for PLA. What's strange is the timings from Flashprint are of a significantly different magnitude... 1 hr 15mins at at 0.08mm or 0hr 27mins at 0.18mm. That's with Flashprint's standard raft. I've just been using the speed settings it gives me... but maybe I should be slowing it down? Would I see a significant improvement in quality?

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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

Post by philipy » Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:43 am

SimonWood wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:43 pm I've just been using the speed settings it gives me... but maybe I should be slowing it down? Would I see a significant improvement in quality?
I'm not sure what the Qidi standard settings are now, I've played around with them over the years. The Qidi slicer is a customised version of Cura and what I have currently is:

Retraction distance 1.5mm
Retraction speed 30mm/s
Layer height 0.08
Line width 0.4mm
Wall line count 2
Top Surface skin layers 5
Top Layers 5
Bottom layers 4
Fill gaps between walls Yes
Print thin walls Yes
Infill density 100% ( NOTE dropping this to 20% makes no difference to the print time for the open barrel because the walls are so thin anyway)
Infill pattern Concentric
Z-Seam Random
Enable ironing On ( but this will have no real effect with such a thin top section as the open barrel)
Adhesion type Brim ( I don't normally use any brim/raft/skirt apart from very small components, but on this the bottom barrel hoop pulled off without one)
Brim width 5mm
Print speed 50mm/s ( Print speed and Min layer time are important with very small items, because if the speed is such that the head comes back again before the previous layer has set, it goes horribly wrong!)
Travel speed 80mm/s
Min layer time 30 sec
Print temp 200 deg ( PLA)
Build plate temp 50 deg ( PLA)
Build plate initial layer temp 60 deg( PLA)
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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

Post by SimonWood » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:06 am

SimonWood wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:15 pm
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"Great men are forged in fire. It is the privilege of lesser men to light the flame."
I finally got around to painting Sir John...

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Still finding eyes very difficult to do.

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On the footplate and just waiting for some Daleks...

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Have to get on and print a TARDIS now...

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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

Post by Andrew » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:02 am

I like the look of Sir John very much!

For what it's worth, my own method of painting eyes on figures evolved some years ago, based on the style adopted by some action figure manufacturers, and advice from my secondary school art teacher (otherwise quite mad). I avoid painting the whites altogether ( on the grounds that from most scale distances you're too far away to "see the whites of their eyes") and only add the pupil, plus a line to represent the upper brow/lashes:
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I'm typing on my phone, can't find a picture of one of my figures to add (the above was literally sketched on the back of an envelope), but it works for me - well I think so anyway!

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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

Post by Andrew » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:35 am

PS Just had another look at Sir John and seen those wonderful bushy eyebrows - in his case I guess the line I suggest above the pupil would definitely represent the eyelashes, not the brow. I don't think I've ever thought about it that much, it just seems to work for me... Here's my ex Captain Haddock guard - not one of my better examples, but it shows the technique...

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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

Post by philipy » Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:03 pm

Works well on Capt Haddock, I must remember that technique.
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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

Post by SimonWood » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:27 pm

Andrew wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:02 am For what it's worth, my own method of painting eyes on figures evolved some years ago, based on the style adopted by some action figure manufacturers, and advice from my secondary school art teacher (otherwise quite mad). I avoid painting the whites altogether ( on the grounds that from most scale distances you're too far away to "see the whites of their eyes") and only add the pupil, plus a line to represent the upper brow/lashes:
That's a great tip Andrew, thanks. I can see how even if it's just the upper lashes it gives the shape of the eye, which is the key problem (essentially the whites are too round, and too large relative to the iris). I will give that a go on Sir John.

Captain Haddock looks great by the way, and I really like your finish on that PS Brake Van. The details you've added really bring it to life while preserving its appealing simplicity. I have one currently in the works myself, if I can make it look half as good I'll be well pleased.

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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

Post by FWLR » Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:39 am

By the way Andrew, Phillip, Rik, Steve.

I had an email notification from this member (Annabel_Voxelab) but when I clicked on the link, it didn't go to that members post. Any reason for that please. I am a little bit concerned that it may be a scammer, I sincerely hope not, because those emails can be very dangerous for everybody.

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Re: Adventures with a Flashforge

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FWLR wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:39 am By the way Andrew, Phillip, Rik, Steve.

I had an email notification from this member (Annabel_Voxelab) but when I clicked on the link, it didn't go to that members post. Any reason for that please. I am a little bit concerned that it may be a scammer, I sincerely hope not, because those emails can be very dangerous for everybody.
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