Hi Rod
Not sure if you have read the recent announcement, but our hosting company have dramatically increased the number of files we can store. We have now upped the limit on how many pictures can be on one post because of this. Hope that helps.
Hi Rod
I think trying out your idea (i.e. a maximum of 3 entries per member) for the next competition is a good way forward. Can I also suggest that all three entries should be on the same post i.e. you can not have 3 entries on 3 separate (or even 2) posts.philipy wrote: βThu Jul 29, 2021 8:09 am Interesting idea. How does anyone feel if we tried it as an experiment by allowing 2 entries per member for the next gallery ( starting beginning of July for two months)?
My own thought is that I wonder if it might give a 'good' and/or prolific photographer, an advantage?
Yes, thats a good point about them being on one post, Jimmy, thanks.Jimmyb wrote: βThu Jul 29, 2021 11:46 amI think trying out your idea (i.e. a maximum of 3 entries per member) for the next competition is a good way forward. Can I also suggest that all three entries should be on the same post i.e. you can not have 3 entries on 3 separate (or even 2) posts.philipy wrote: βThu Jul 29, 2021 8:09 am Interesting idea. How does anyone feel if we tried it as an experiment by allowing 2 entries per member for the next gallery ( starting beginning of July for two months)?
My own thought is that I wonder if it might give a 'good' and/or prolific photographer, an advantage?
I would see this as a vote per photo, one person one vote, and the photo with the most votes wins, surely that is how it currently worksPeter Butler wrote: βThu Jul 29, 2021 12:33 pm I have to admit I'm struggling to see any advantage in this idea, there are two possible outcomes.... those who enter two (or three) pictures might have some advantage over those who enter only one, or the possibility of splitting one person's vote amongst their own entries could deny them the win they might otherwise deserve.
My error, I (mis)read it as two additional pictures, not two picturesphilipy wrote: βThu Jul 29, 2021 11:59 amYes, thats a good point about them being on one post, Jimmy, thanks.Jimmyb wrote: βThu Jul 29, 2021 11:46 amI think trying out your idea (i.e. a maximum of 3 entries per member) for the next competition is a good way forward. Can I also suggest that all three entries should be on the same post i.e. you can not have 3 entries on 3 separate (or even 2) posts.philipy wrote: βThu Jul 29, 2021 8:09 am Interesting idea. How does anyone feel if we tried it as an experiment by allowing 2 entries per member for the next gallery ( starting beginning of July for two months)?
My own thought is that I wonder if it might give a 'good' and/or prolific photographer, an advantage?
However, from a purely personal/administrative pov, I would still prefer to limit it to two rather than three pictures, to begin with at least. It does already take some considerable time to go through the entry posts and separate them from the various subsequent comment posts, download each picture and collate it with its title, then upload them all again onto the voting thread and then construct the poll. Going from one to two pictures each will more or less double that, and going to three will triple it!
Yes it is, but I think Peter's point is that a person with two very similar entries that got, say, 10 votes each, would be beaten by somebody else who got 11 votes for one entry, when, if the original entrant had only entered one, he might have got 20 votes for that one.
Ah, I see that now, but that would be up to the individual to manage their entries, and could be the advantage of a single entry, at the individuals choice.philipy wrote: βThu Jul 29, 2021 1:26 pmYes it is, but I think Peter's point is that a person with two very similar entries that got, say, 10 votes each, would be beaten by somebody else who got 11 votes for one entry, when, if the original entrant had only entered one, he might have got 20 votes for that one.
Yes, but it beats by a mile discussing far less important things like Covid, Brexit, Global warming, the Middle East, gun control, world peace, what G Scale actually means, the best way to ballast track, are 3D printers killing off scratch building etc.BorisSpencer wrote: βThu Jul 29, 2021 3:44 pm If we really believe there will be people submitting entries, and subsequently voting tactically, in order to boost their chances of winning a quarterly competition for which there is no reward or prize then I wish them all the best.
This thread seems to overestimated its own importance by a factor of "considerably".
Agreed, but, does it beat discussing which are the best brews to drink! (for brew this could mean ale/porter/stout/cider, or tea )ge_rik wrote: βThu Jul 29, 2021 4:13 pmYes, but it beats by a mile discussing far less important things like Covid, Brexit, Global warming, the Middle East, gun control, world peace, what G Scale actually means, the best way to ballast track, are 3D printers killing off scratch building etc.BorisSpencer wrote: βThu Jul 29, 2021 3:44 pm If we really believe there will be people submitting entries, and subsequently voting tactically, in order to boost their chances of winning a quarterly competition for which there is no reward or prize then I wish them all the best.
This thread seems to overestimated its own importance by a factor of "considerably".
Rik
YEP, I think it does. The only thing in that list that I drink is coffee....oops, sorry not on the list so I can't discuss it!
I also agree with BorisSpencer, it is getting to be considerably overestimating its importance. How much longer are you going to be discussing it. I thought Phillip said a couple more weeks after the poll closed. Is it going to be a couple of dozen now....BorisSpencer wrote: βThu Jul 29, 2021 3:44 pm
This thread seems to overestimated its own importance by a factor of "considerably".
No, PHILIP said, "So now is the chance for those 18 ( and everyone else, of course) to say what changes they propose . Again, to be fair, we'll give it 2 weeks for suggestions, so have your ideas in by 31st July please."
Philip has understood and explained my comments better than I did but, thankfully, the final decision is not mine to make. After all this discussion the proof of its success lies in the number of entrants. I hope we can continue to join in with the idea of it being a just-for-fun activity, open to all and with no expression of success, failure or embarrassment.philipy wrote: βThu Jul 29, 2021 1:26 pmYes it is, but I think Peter's point is that a person with two very similar entries that got, say, 10 votes each, would be beaten by somebody else who got 11 votes for one entry, when, if the original entrant had only entered one, he might have got 20 votes for that one.
Rod, Philip isn't "being like" anything - you said you found the discussion boring, and he suggested that you might choose not to read it, just as you would any other topic that doesn't interest you.
I think you missed the point, Rod. Do you honestly think I was saying that this discussion really is more important than all those things I listed.....?
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