Garden Railway Gallery - a POLL, please read.

The quarterly gallery of entries and voted best pictures

Should we continue with the Quarterly Photo Gallery?

Poll ended at Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:38 pm

1- Yes, we should continue exactly the same.
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41%
2) Yes we should continue but the way it runs needs to change.( We can have a debate about how, later).
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3) Carry on if you want to but I'm not interested.
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4) I don't think there is any point to it and it should stop.
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Total votes: 41

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Post by Admin Team » Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:16 pm

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(No Rod, this is not directed at you, just everyone and yes I am aware it's after your post, but the thread has been heading this way for some time)

Please think about any comments you post here as at the moment it seems very one sided towards the particular theme that was picked this time and not at the idea of the quarterly photos, which I think actually is run and runs very well considering how many regular members we actually have. It isn't always about scenery, or people, which I personally have no people for the line and neither do I have any buildings (remaining), but some do and it's lovely to see their entries and what they are capable of.

The theme changes so it supposed to cover something that many may people have but not necessary everyone every time. Sometimes I don't enter because I simply don't meet that theme, yet I do not feel victimised in any form, I don't feel that their is an elite group, I enjoy being part of the greater forum, I just love looking in envy at what some people have achieved.

The theme in the future might be something like, your best battery loco or your best steam loco, your best scratch build, or your oldest loco, your cheapest loco, your cheapest bit of rolling stock or your simplest, the list is absolutely endless, so please, if you can't enter one time, please just admire all the pictures that other people have produced.

If there is a problem with the way it is run then that is very different and maybe someone could start a post in the "Suggestions" area of the forum so the team can take a look and see if it's workable / possible /agreeable with most regular forum members.

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Post by Jimmyb » Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:21 am

I do like the idea of a rolling stock "type" (age/power/build/etc) category, as an alternative to railway scenes i.e. set piece dioramas, and for those of us that do not buildings or many people because we like to just "run" trains.

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Post by FWLR » Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:31 am

No offence taken Admin Team, bit strange though that in the post it states "I" quite a few times.


Still I hope it is resolved soon this poll, because it does seem to be taking a long time to be completed. I also enjoy, which I have mentioned many times, looking at members photos and admiring their work. It is one of the better threads in my opinion for what it's worth.

Hopefully members will see that it's well worth entering or posting any photos, whether they are successful builds or not so successful. They don't even need to be scratch builds, off the shelf are just as welcome in my eyes. I feel a lot of members don't like to post photos for some reason and yes maybe it is the present way of only two per post. I think personally two is fine and if I do need to post more, there are other options to do so.

Keep on running a brilliant and enjoyable forum, I think it's the best on the interweb....... :thumbright:

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Post by -steves- » Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:08 am

FWLR wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:31 am
Keep on running a brilliant and enjoyable forum, I think it's the best on the interweb....... :thumbright:
Thanks Rod, much appreciated, let's hope we can all manage to keep it that way for the foreseeable future :D
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Post by -steves- » Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:13 am

FWLR wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:31 am No offence taken Admin Team, bit strange though that in the post it states "I" quite a few times.
The reason for that is that "I" wrote that particular post from me but then put it up as from the Admin Team. This a a new account which any of the Admin Team have access to and they can make "Announcements" or comments which the team agree with rather than it coming from just one person.

Hope that makes some sense :dontknow: :thumbup:
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Post by FWLR » Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:43 am

-steves- wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:13 am
FWLR wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:31 am No offence taken Admin Team, bit strange though that in the post it states "I" quite a few times.
The reason for that is that "I" wrote that particular post from me but then put it up as from the Admin Team. This a a new account which any of the Admin Team have access to and they can make "Announcements" or comments which the team agree with rather than it coming from just one person.

Hope that makes some sense :dontknow: :thumbup:
Brilliant :thumbright:

Thank you Steve :thumbright:

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Post by FWLR » Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:43 am

-steves- wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:08 am
FWLR wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:31 am
Keep on running a brilliant and enjoyable forum, I think it's the best on the interweb....... :thumbright:
Thanks Rod, much appreciated, let's hope we can all manage to keep it that way for the foreseeable future :D
So do I Steve. :D

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Post by KjellAn » Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:54 pm

I like the quarterly vote for the best garden railway picture. I have contributed with some pictures and also received good feedback.
I hope we can continue, and it inspires me to make nice scenes of my garden railway. If we do not always manage to make a miniature of the 12 inches to the foot, then it is worth a try.
To get more members to vote, administrators should perhaps send more reminders.
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Post by ge_rik » Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:14 pm

Interesting the way the discussion is developing. Before Philip posted this poll I had sent him a message saying that my choice of title for the next competition was going to be "My favourite ....... " My thinking was that this could cover a multitude of themes and even allow members to post a photo which they had taken a while ago but which they haven't been able to use because it doesn't fit any categories.

I'm sorry if it has come across that those who post photos and vote appear to be part of a clique. It certainly doesn't feel that way to me. The competition is open to everyone on the forum and anyone is free to vote. I'm not a competitive person by nature and am not particularly interested in winning. I didn't even know England was in the Euro football competition until the story appeared on the front page of my newspaper last week - I never read the sports section! I usually enter the photo competition because I want to keep the forum active. I think there were only two or three photos when I posted my last one a few days before the deadline. The scene took me about ten minutes to set up and snap, then I got on with other jobs.

Maybe admin team members should be barred from entering? That wouldn't bother me. It would save me having to find or take something suitable. Alternatively or additionally, I suppose it would be possible for photos to be entered anonymously, so there could be no accusations of bias in the voting. Though, I suspect most of the regular contributors would quickly recognise stock and features on other regular posters' railways.

I have no particular preferences for how the discussion evolves and what is the eventual outcome. I think the aim of the competition was to help create a sense of community, but if it is having a divisive impact then maybe we should ditch it.

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Post by philipy » Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:51 pm

Jimmyb wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:21 am I do like the idea of a rolling stock "type" (age/power/build/etc) category, as an alternative to railway scenes i.e. set piece dioramas, and for those of us that do not buildings or many people because we like to just "run" trains.
Just a quick comment on this. Whilst i do understand your point, the theme each quarter is set by the previous quarters winner and there are no set categories as such. Personally I would have no objection whatsover if a theme were to be set as "Brake vans in action" for example ( picking a random thought), I do fear that it could be even more restrictive?
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Post by philipy » Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:17 pm

Following Jimmy's thoughts on categories and subjects, I thought it might be useful to look at the 'stats' for previous Galleries. So these are all of the subjects, number of entries and total number of votes cast:

"My Railway" 11 entries 41 votes

"Railway scenery" 12 entries 41 votes

"On track" 10 entries 24 votes

"Freight train, Freight train..." 7 entries 27 votes

"Winter on the garden railway" 9 entries 27 votes

"Lineside industries " 8 entries 27 votes

"Railway idyll " 6 entries 15 votes

"Autumn garden railway" 12 entries 25 votes

"Funny people and situations on the Garden Railway" 4 entries 26 votes

"Working on the Railway" 8 entries 18 votes

Make what you will of those figures, but actually only a couple of the themes are specificaly aimed towards 'scenery' in its broadest sense, other than that it is down to individual interpretation - if your idea of a Railway Idyll is a powerful loco working hard with a long train, that is equally as valid as a bucolic scene with dappled sunlight at the end of the day.
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Post by philipy » Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:38 pm

ge_rik wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:14 pm I'm sorry if it has come across that those who post photos and vote appear to be part of a clique. It certainly doesn't feel that way to me. The competition is open to everyone on the forum and anyone is free to vote. I'm not a competitive person by nature and am not particularly interested in winning.
The only way to avoid this perception is for more people to enter and more to vote.
ge_rik wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:14 pm I didn't even know England was in the Euro football competition until the story appeared on the front page of my newspaper last week - I never read the sports section!
Phew... I thought I was the only one in the entire country!
ge_rik wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:14 pm I usually enter the photo competition because I want to keep the forum active.
Maybe admin team members should be barred from entering? That wouldn't bother me. It would save me having to find or take something suitable.
Me too, although that would reduce the quarterley tally by 2 or three each time and I really would have to question the point of it all.
ge_rik wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:14 pm Alternatively or additionally, I suppose it would be possible for photos to be entered anonymously, so there could be no accusations of bias in the voting. Though, I suspect most of the regular contributors would quickly recognise stock and features on other regular posters' railways.
I think you are right that entries woudl be recognised one way or another, plus the only way to create a semblance of anonymity would be for entries to be sent to me and I then post them on behalf of each individual member. That would make for more hassle all round and since simplicity seems to be required, I suspect it woud be a retrograde step.
ge_rik wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:14 pm I have no particular preferences for how the discussion evolves and what is the eventual outcome. I think the aim of the competition was to help create a sense of community, but if it is having a divisive impact then maybe we should ditch it.
I must say that so far I don't see it as divisive, the poll still has about a week to run, but so far there seems to be a call for a revision to the format which is fine. My intention has always been that we should start a discussion in a new thread in week or 10 days time by asking for simple 'one liner' suggestions for debate -
I said " IN A WEEK OR 10 DAYS", so please would nobody jump the gun??!!
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Post by FWLR » Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:15 am

ge_rik wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:14 pm Interesting the way the discussion is developing.
Glad to see you think there is a discussion already Rik. What's the point of a forum if you can't discuss anything on a forum...
ge_rik wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:14 pm Rik wrote
Maybe admin team members should be barred from entering? That wouldn't bother me. It would save me having to find or take something suitable.
I agree with that, not that it would make any difference to whether I post a photo or not, it may encourage more members, who knows.
ge_rik wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:14 pm Rik wrote
Though, I suspect most of the regular contributors would quickly recognise stock and features on other regular posters' railways.
I think any member would recognise stock and features on any members line, those that go onto the forum daily would anyway.

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Post by ge_rik » Sat Jul 10, 2021 1:18 pm

FWLR wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:15 am
ge_rik wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:14 pm Rik wrote
Maybe admin team members should be barred from entering? That wouldn't bother me. It would save me having to find or take something suitable.
I agree with that,.....
More than happy to comply, Rod

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Post by Peter Butler » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:34 pm

ge_rik wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:14 pm
FWLR wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:15 am
ge_rik wrote: ↑Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:14 pm Rik wrote
Maybe admin team members should be barred from entering? That wouldn't bother me. It would save me having to find or take something suitable.
I agree with that,.....
More than happy to comply, Rod

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Post by Jimmyb » Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:24 am

Peter Butler wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:34 pm I disagree entirely with anyone being barred from entering an open competition. We must all be treated equally with no favouritism, no one knows how individuals vote so there is nothing to be gained. Also, there is no need to feel obliged to enter 'something suitable', just give it a miss.
Peter I am with you, though I do think if the photos could be made anonymous, it would not matter if the entry was from the admin team, as we wouldn't know.

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Post by ge_rik » Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:42 pm

Peter Butler wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:34 pm .......... Also, there is no need to feel obliged to enter 'something suitable', just give it a miss.
I quite often do give the competition a miss if I feel there are already plenty of entries. However, if it looks like there are only a few entries, I feel the urge to post a photo to make it a bit more interesting for those who vote. As mentioned earlier, I'm not that interested in winning, just wanting to keep the forum ticking along.

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Post by Andrew » Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:31 pm

ge_rik wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:42 pm I'm not that interested in winning, just wanting to keep the forum ticking along.
What? With the massive cash prize??!

Oh. Hang on...

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Post by Lonsdaler » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:42 pm

Andrew wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:31 pm
ge_rik wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 4:42 pm I'm not that interested in winning, just wanting to keep the forum ticking along.
What? With the massive cash prize??!

Oh. Hang on...
Dang! What did I miss? More effort required :roll:
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Post by FWLR » Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:10 am

I feel has though members think I don't want the competition to carry on. You couldn't be more wrong. I love looking at members photos no matter what they do. Just to see how members achieve their love of our hobby is something I look forward too and also to see if I can do something equally as brilliant.


I also seem to have missed that pot of money..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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