'Refurbishing' the Bridge over the Greta

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Re: 'Refurbishing' the Bridge over the Greta

Post by philipy » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:03 pm

That last pic looks amazing. A wash of Yoghurt and let nature do the rest, I don't think I'd bother trying to pick out individual stone myself, but as always, its yours so do what you want! :lol:

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Re: 'Refurbishing' the Bridge over the Greta

Post by IanC » Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:57 pm

That's fantastic work Phil. It looks impressive in the pictures and I'll bet it's even better in the flesh.
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Re: 'Refurbishing' the Bridge over the Greta

Post by ge_rik » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:33 pm

Looking great. A good mix of techniques and media. Amazing the range of knowledge and skills we develop as garden railway modellers!!

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Re: 'Refurbishing' the Bridge over the Greta

Post by Andrew » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:03 pm

That's really looking very good - the paint wash has made the stone walling look very convincing...

I've taken a note of Stixall as well, sounds just the thing...

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Re: 'Refurbishing' the Bridge over the Greta

Post by Lonsdaler » Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:25 am

Andrew wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:03 pm
That's really looking very good - the paint wash has made the stone walling look very convincing...

I've taken a note of Stixall as well, sounds just the thing...

Cheers,

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Thank you Andrew. A technique picked up from a friend who isn't a forum member, but has the most convincing 32mm outdoor railway I have ever seen. As for Stixall - it has been a revelation to me. It's available in many colours and will actualy bond in water. The only caveat is keep it off the faces of anything you fix! :thumbup:
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Re: 'Refurbishing' the Bridge over the Greta

Post by FWLR » Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:45 am

Thats so good Phil. It’s like seeing it built in the bigger world…all coming together when the rain stops…. :lol: :lol:

Love the way you have built the piers by the way, that Stixall looks to be brilliant stuff.
I thought the Evo Stik stuff is supposed to be water proof :scratch:
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Re: 'Refurbishing' the Bridge over the Greta

Post by bazzer42 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 2:05 pm

Catching up, sorry. I like those panels, it looks like a technique to try just got to figure where! Brilliantly de-furbished.

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Re: 'Refurbishing' the Bridge over the Greta

Post by Lonsdaler » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:45 pm

I don't seem to have noticed the last 2 comments on the thread, so apologies and thanks to Rod and Derek for the kind remarks, and I love the new word Derek - defurbished
I shall add that to my dictionary! :D

I have pretty much finished the bridge now and it has been fixed in place (with Stixall). Because the bridge is on a curve and the existing causeway is quite narrow, I have fixed the bridge unprototypically with its upper edge at rail height, which means it won't foul locos and rolling stick on the curve. Apart from the moans from the health and safety rep about no protection for PW workers, I think it looks okay, and have invoked rule 8*.
Today has been untypically wall to wall sunshine, but eventually the glare relented enough for me to get photos with somewhat less contrast.
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This is the view from the garden side with the River Greta represented by blue slate chippings.
I oversprayed the parts with matt clear lacquer, which for some reason looks a bit shiny in these photos.
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And the view from the field side.
I have also reballasted this section, and thought I would show my weatherproofing which stays in place for 3 or 4 days. They are just cheap polytunnels from Wilkinson's, which spike into the ground either side of the ballasted area. As there's no ground to spike into on the field side here, it's supported by plastic clamps to the fence wire.
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* I'm sure most know rule 8, but for those who don't:
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Re: 'Refurbishing' the Bridge over the Greta

Post by philipy » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:21 pm

That looks really good Phil, top marks.
Could you get around the fencing issue by fixing iron posts on the outside faces rather than on the tops? Possibly even cantilevering them out by a few mm? Just a thought, depends on how tight the clearances are to start with.

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Post by Peter Butler » Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:34 pm

I love the poly-tunnel idea, never thought of that before but will look into it now.
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Re: 'Refurbishing' the Bridge over the Greta

Post by IanC » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:03 pm

Looks really good Phil. Well done.
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Re: 'Refurbishing' the Bridge over the Greta

Post by Andrew » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:13 pm

That looks wonderful!

It already looks very railway-like to me, I don't reckon you need guard rails. I know modern H&S rule call for them, but did they always? I rode on the Dartmouth Steam Railway a fortnight ago (wonderful, a blue King one way and a red Pannier the other, both working hard against the gradients) and noticed that the safety rails on many of the smaller overbridges there were clearly modern, and I couldn't see any clear signs that they'd been preceded by something else...

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Re: 'Refurbishing' the Bridge over the Greta

Post by philipy » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:12 pm

Phil,
With nothing better to do, I'm cogitating my stream bridge again, and your thread a few weeks ago resurrected a related idea on my 'to do' list from years ago.
May I ask how thick your moulded concrete 'stone' panels are, please? It's difficult to judge from the pictures but they look about 15mm?

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Re: 'Refurbishing' the Bridge over the Greta

Post by Lonsdaler » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:40 pm

philipy wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:12 pm
Phil,
With nothing better to do, I'm cogitating my stream bridge again, and your thread a few weeks ago resurrected a related idea on my 'to do' list from years ago.
May I ask how thick your moulded concrete 'stone' panels are, please? It's difficult to judge from the pictures but they look about 15mm?
Shouldn't you be wafting cool air over memsahib and providing daiquiri by the pint? :lol:
I think the wood formers I used were 18mm deep, so not a bad guess. I also incorporated a piece of galvanised wire mesh to provide some strength lengthways. Even so, a couple have cracked, but the wire stops them falling apart.
A nice 'stone' arched bridge would compliment your stream beautifully I think!
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Re: 'Refurbishing' the Bridge over the Greta

Post by philipy » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:50 pm

Lonsdaler wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:40 pm

Shouldn't you be wafting cool air over memsahib and providing daiquiri by the pint? :lol:
She rarely has more than one G&T per day :)
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:40 pm
I think the wood formers I used were 18mm deep, so not a bad guess. I also incorporated a piece of galvanised wire mesh to provide some strength lengthways. Even so, a couple have cracked, but the wire stops them falling apart.
yep I was thinking along those lines myself
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:40 pm
A nice 'stone' arched bridge would compliment your stream beautifully I think!
Funnily enough I've been scouring the 'net for stone bridge pictures these last couple of days. :D I keep shifting my thoughts around how best to fit a stone arch to a Rik style stone lined stream, but I think the ideas are crystalising now.

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