Time to build a railway...but where?

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:07 pm

The final detailing is now complete and the multicoloured stage of development is at an end....
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This is my favourite part of the build when a unifying primer coat is applied, all of a sudden everything blends into one unit....
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The stanchion sockets are now attached and rings fitted to allow loads to be tied down...
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Ready for final painting now.
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Andrew » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:01 pm

Peter Butler wrote:
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This is my favourite part of the build when a unifying primer coat is applied, all of a sudden everything blends into one unit....
Me too!

The wagon's looking great - have you thought up an interesting load for it?

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by philipy » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:14 pm

Lovely job, as always, Peter.

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:50 pm

Andrew wrote:
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The wagon's looking great - have you thought up an interesting load for it?
Remember my railway represents a preserved/tourist line where all kinds of stock items are restored for use or display. As such there would be no 'payload', just something typical of the period, so I thought of a boring wooden packing crate with markings of the supposed contents.
I could fill it with armaments and WW1 soldiers to show a re-enactment scenario, but I think it would be OTT, and a little expensive! I might also end up explaining why I'm hosting a battle scene when all around them is in harmony?
If you have alternative suggestions please let me know.
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Post by philipy » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:04 am

Peter, I don't know whast sort of loads these would ahve carried, other than as you say, packing crates. However I wonder if you could put something appropriately warlike, such as a field gun ( not a massive great howitzer!) which could also have been preserved by the local reenactment group?

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Post by ge_rik » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:47 am

Another brilliant build, Peter. As well as bringing everything together, I think it's remarkable that a coat of primer transforms plasticard into heavyweight riveted steel castings.

Thanks for the info about the canvas. I want to tarp a couple of open wagons so will give it a try.

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:07 pm

philipy wrote:
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I wonder if you could put something appropriately warlike, such as a field gun ( not a massive great howitzer!) which could also have been preserved by the local reenactment group?
My collection of military rail-mounted guns is well supported already and the neighbouring villages are getting quite concerned about our intentions!
I have a scratch-built German rail-gun.....
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A rail-mounted naval gun (die-cast on scratch-built chassis).....
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And a field gun (die-cast on a scratch-built armoured ammunitions van)......
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Thank you for the suggestion but apart from being well represented, die-cast guns in this scale are not easy to find and can be quite pricey!
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Post by philipy » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:02 pm

Peter Butler wrote:
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Thank you for the suggestion but apart from being well represented, die-cast guns in this scale are not easy to find and can be quite pricey!
No probs.
How about coils of barbed wire then?
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by IrishPeter » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:59 pm

philipy wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:04 am
Peter, I don't know whast sort of loads these would ahve carried, other than as you say, packing crates. However I wonder if you could put something appropriately warlike, such as a field gun ( not a massive great howitzer!) which could also have been preserved by the local reenactment group?
On the WDLR the heavier caliber field guns would have been transported on their own special wagons where you could remove a bogie and then end load. Shells for Howitzers and other heavy field guns is more likely than the gun itself. I am thinking that 'heavy stores' of all varieties would have ended up in the well wagons, but 6 and 9 pounders are unlikely - as they would have been a beggar to load. It would have been easier to wrestle them on and off a D wagon.

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by FWLR » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:33 am

That barbed wire idea of Phillip's is very good Peter. You could make the (can't think of the name) sorry mate, with the cross handles quite easily I think, being the master you are... :notworthy: :notworthy:

Love the German scratch built gun too....Brilliant. :thumbright:
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Andrew » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:04 am

Peter Butler wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:07 pm

My collection of military rail-mounted guns is well supported already and the neighbouring villages are getting quite concerned about our intentions!
A wagonload of ploughshares might put their minds at rest... And WDLR did end up on agricultural work after the war didn't it, lugging potatoes around in Lincs?

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Post by Peter Butler » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:40 am

Many thanks for your suggestions, it is always interesting to hear other opinions and personal preferences. I like the ideas of both Philip and Andrew and it shows how people view the same issue differently.
My thoughts are that the farming equipment might not be easily recognised in context with the rest of my train, which still represents vehicles specifically designed for conflict. As for the barbed wire, that looks wonderful and no doubt suitable in a war-time diorama, however, as a responsible employer, I have doubts as to its use as a load in preserved wagons which would require a certain amount of maintenance by my staff and volunteers.... H and S you know!!!
Having weighed up the possibilities I have reverted to the original boring packing crate, simply because it would be a cheap and safe option for any heritage railway to use as 'dressing' for the vehicle.....
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by ge_rik » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:27 pm

I'm sure you've already seen this, Peter, but just in case - Swift Sixteen do a nicely moulded shell load for sick squid.
https://www.swiftsixteen.co.uk/Detailing/Shell-Load

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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by Peter Butler » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:47 pm

Thanks Rik, I have seen these used in a 'D' wagon belonging to a friend and they do look very good. Possibly the same applies to them, as I said before, in that they are perfect for a diorama or wartime layout, whether they would be used in a heritage railway setting I don't know? Perhaps I'm being too picky?
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Re: Time to build a railway...but where?

Post by SimonWood » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:45 pm

Tinker's Park:
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Doesn't look quite as businesslike or aggressive as the Swift Sixteen load.

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