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Time to build a railway...but where?
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After a general inspection of my structures I am really pleased with the condition of them all. Certainly the cast resin ones have suffered from peeling paint, but not too serious and easily restored. Nothing made from HIP has distorted, broken or become detached. The worst thing about the structures is the discolouration of window glazing material... clear styrene which has yellowed so nothing can be viewed inside. I rarely bother with interior detailing anyway, but shop windows did have displays which are now completely hidden.
A friend has used 'slate-grey styrene mirror sheet' in his windows and it looks very good. In most instances it is impossible to see what is inside a building (which is why I don't bother, but the yellow appearance is more noticeable so will be replaced.
I have made a shocking discovery however.... the HIP signal box was tightly sealed against water penetration, so much so it also prevented water from escaping from the only opening, namely the small diameter chimney from the pot-bellied stove. My railway has had no use this year so I hadn't noticed the signalman, who had nothing to do but go to sleep in his chair, had drowned whilst on duty! When I lifted the box it held about two litres of water, reaching half-way up the windows. After removing the roof and washing out the interior, then sealing the chimney, everything is good to go!....
A friend has used 'slate-grey styrene mirror sheet' in his windows and it looks very good. In most instances it is impossible to see what is inside a building (which is why I don't bother, but the yellow appearance is more noticeable so will be replaced.
I have made a shocking discovery however.... the HIP signal box was tightly sealed against water penetration, so much so it also prevented water from escaping from the only opening, namely the small diameter chimney from the pot-bellied stove. My railway has had no use this year so I hadn't noticed the signalman, who had nothing to do but go to sleep in his chair, had drowned whilst on duty! When I lifted the box it held about two litres of water, reaching half-way up the windows. After removing the roof and washing out the interior, then sealing the chimney, everything is good to go!....
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Swimming whilst on duty? Surely that can't go undisciplined?
Philip
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The patination of algae on the roof tiles looks very realistic. Is it natural or painted on?
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The patination on the roof is entirely natural and occurs on several of my buildings, although not all to the same extent. I have no idea why as they are all exposed to the same conditions and made of the same material with no surface finish. It is always damp here, which is why moss grows so abundantly too.
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On the subject of roof patination, as shown in the previous posts, here is a good example of how other buildings, of the same age and in identical conditions, have not been affected......
This picture does show how the window glazing has yellowed and the shop displays inside are no longer visible. My next job is to replace it with slate-grey mirror sheet, (delivered this morning), so that just a reflection is given, much as would be seen in full sized structures.
This picture does show how the window glazing has yellowed and the shop displays inside are no longer visible. My next job is to replace it with slate-grey mirror sheet, (delivered this morning), so that just a reflection is given, much as would be seen in full sized structures.
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That seems like what it is in real life Peter.
Don't they say if your roof is facing North or East, that moss and stuff grow there.
On our roofs where ever we have lived, North facing roofs have all been full of moss and lichen, yet the South and West have never had any at all.
Don't they say if your roof is facing North or East, that moss and stuff grow there.
On our roofs where ever we have lived, North facing roofs have all been full of moss and lichen, yet the South and West have never had any at all.
ROD
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Life is so easy when I run my trains.
https://gardenrails.org/forum/viewtopic ... 41&t=11364
https://www.youtube.com/@fairywoodlightrailway
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The minor damage to the structures is just about complete now, worst affected were the shop/pub signs, which were printed on paper, laminated and stuck on with Evo-Stik. The adhesive has held but the signs became sun-bleached, which is no surprise and easily fixed....
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The last picture shows more replacement window glazing with slate-grey tinted, 5mm mirrored acrylic sheet. The effect is really good and should last far better than the clear styrene sheet, which went opaque.
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The last picture shows more replacement window glazing with slate-grey tinted, 5mm mirrored acrylic sheet. The effect is really good and should last far better than the clear styrene sheet, which went opaque.
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Peter that is a clever idea - I would never have thought of using mirrored acrylic.
I might just try that myself.
Trevor
I might just try that myself.
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I can't take credit for the idea, it was one of our local model group members who presented his engine shed using the material at a club meeting. It is a perfect solution as windows naturally reflect and I don't model interior fittings.Trevor Thompson wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:24 pm Peter that is a clever idea - I would never have thought of using mirrored acrylic.
I might just try that myself.
Trevor
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I have recently turned my attention to small industrial locomotives. A number of Youtube videos, filmed at Amberley Museum, and the Slater's Simplex I built not long ago, have inspired me to add to my collection.
The first (used) 16mm scale loco I bought when I started this scale was a ready made, kit built, 'Caravan', which I believe to be an early white-metal model made by IP Engineering? This has a 3v motor and carries two AA batteries. Due to it being either on or off, with no control over it, I never ran it. Yesterday I decided to swap the motor for a 12v one of identical dimensions, so no need to change the gears, and power it from a rechargeable, 9.6v, 220mAh PP3 battery, thereby allowing me to install RC. ..... The latest addition is the purchase of a ready-made, laser-cut chassis.....
https://bolelasercraft.com/product/ruston-20dl-chassis/
The body for this chassis is now under construction and is based on the Ransomes and Rapier loco, also shown on the Bole website.
The first (used) 16mm scale loco I bought when I started this scale was a ready made, kit built, 'Caravan', which I believe to be an early white-metal model made by IP Engineering? This has a 3v motor and carries two AA batteries. Due to it being either on or off, with no control over it, I never ran it. Yesterday I decided to swap the motor for a 12v one of identical dimensions, so no need to change the gears, and power it from a rechargeable, 9.6v, 220mAh PP3 battery, thereby allowing me to install RC. ..... The latest addition is the purchase of a ready-made, laser-cut chassis.....
https://bolelasercraft.com/product/ruston-20dl-chassis/
The body for this chassis is now under construction and is based on the Ransomes and Rapier loco, also shown on the Bole website.
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I kind of know that feeling, Peter.Peter Butler wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 3:34 pm I have recently turned my attention to small industrial locomotives. A number of Youtube videos, filmed at Amberley Museum, and the Slater's Simplex I built not long ago, have inspired me to add to my collection.
With no fixed purpose in mind when I started, I have of course, recently built the Wickham Trolley, the Chingford contractor and am partway through the De Winton and it dawned on me a couple of weeks ago that I now seem to have developed a penchant for oddballs!
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Christmas has come early, despite the best efforts of the Post Office!.. Elsewhere on the Forum I have mentioned my order for two models from new Forum members, 'Porterhouse Models', and the associated problems with delayed deliveries during the strike action. At last they have arrived and I am more than pleased, in fact delighted with both. The 3D printing is just superb, and the design detail astonishing!
Something I have wanted for some time is a 'Cleminson' wagon, but after hearing of the problems with making the 6 wheel chassis perform on curves and inclines in a realistic and satisfactory way, I chickened out! The chassis on this wagon has solved those issues in a most ingenious way allowing the outer axles to turn and the centre one to slide sideways. It also has built-in vertical movement at either end and 'floating' axles to allow for any sideways lift of the body.... wonderful!
If you haven't already guessed, I am 'over the moon' with this and desperate to get it in paint, just as soon as the cold weather allows!
Check out their website....
https://www.porterhousemodels.co.uk/store
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Something I have wanted for some time is a 'Cleminson' wagon, but after hearing of the problems with making the 6 wheel chassis perform on curves and inclines in a realistic and satisfactory way, I chickened out! The chassis on this wagon has solved those issues in a most ingenious way allowing the outer axles to turn and the centre one to slide sideways. It also has built-in vertical movement at either end and 'floating' axles to allow for any sideways lift of the body.... wonderful!
If you haven't already guessed, I am 'over the moon' with this and desperate to get it in paint, just as soon as the cold weather allows!
Check out their website....
https://www.porterhousemodels.co.uk/store
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(No personal connection, just a satisfied customer)
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Hi Peter,
Glad the models arrived safely (eventually!) and you are happy with them.
Thankyou for the glowing write up about the models.
We have seen your email about the post driving band for the Spooners boat and we are getting some spares packed to send to you.
I have been reading through your thread and really like your layout and other projects you have been working on.
Hope you have a Merry Christmas
Best Wishes
Porterhouse Models
Glad the models arrived safely (eventually!) and you are happy with them.
Thankyou for the glowing write up about the models.
We have seen your email about the post driving band for the Spooners boat and we are getting some spares packed to send to you.
I have been reading through your thread and really like your layout and other projects you have been working on.
Hope you have a Merry Christmas
Best Wishes
Porterhouse Models
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Many thanks for your kind remarks, Adrian, I will try to do justice to your models.
The second model from Porterhouse was 'Spooner's Boat', something I have been thinking about for several years and, again, failed to find a solution in the absence of a 3D printer. I know Trevor has made one, which looks very good indeed.
This one has a motorised option, which I took advantage of as I don't have gradients, unlike Trevor. I can put a sail on mine and make it appear to be wind powered.
Again, the model is beautifully printed with very little sign of lines, although I have given it a slight smoothing which can be seen in the pictures....
Just as the Cleminson, the detail is crisp and well formed. Although I know nothing about 3D printers, my feeling is that some investment has been made to produce models to this standard, but the models are sensibly priced.
Something to note is that they come pre-assembled, which is included in the price. In both instances, because of the complexity of the parts, I think this is a good idea.
The second model from Porterhouse was 'Spooner's Boat', something I have been thinking about for several years and, again, failed to find a solution in the absence of a 3D printer. I know Trevor has made one, which looks very good indeed.
This one has a motorised option, which I took advantage of as I don't have gradients, unlike Trevor. I can put a sail on mine and make it appear to be wind powered.
Again, the model is beautifully printed with very little sign of lines, although I have given it a slight smoothing which can be seen in the pictures....
Just as the Cleminson, the detail is crisp and well formed. Although I know nothing about 3D printers, my feeling is that some investment has been made to produce models to this standard, but the models are sensibly priced.
Something to note is that they come pre-assembled, which is included in the price. In both instances, because of the complexity of the parts, I think this is a good idea.
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That six wheeled wagon does look nice, looking forward to your paint job.
Merry and Safe Christmas to you Peter and all on here,
Grant.
Merry and Safe Christmas to you Peter and all on here,
Grant.
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Fascinating to hear how the six wheeler chassis has been designed. I know from experience how tricky they are.
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Oooh, I could be very tempted by that Cleminson coal wagon, I look forward to seeing your paint job!
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Agreed Rik, instead of the centre axle having to rise and fall it is fixed to allow horizontal movement only. The outer axles move in all planes and effectively 'rock' on the centre axle allowing for even greater movement... all very clever.
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