The Development of the WLR

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Re: The Development of the WLR

Post by Old Man Aaron » Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:16 am

Just caught up with this thread, and I must say this is really something different. Love it.
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Post by Peter Butler » Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:19 am

I have been watching this from the beginning and agree with Aaron, it is something fresh in the world of 16mm. I too have a fondness for early railway development
and it is possible to create a whole environment around such ancient equipment and set it in any era since.
My 'heritage' line has such items from the past, preserved as museum pieces, so anything can be set against them, just as I please.....
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Re: The Development of the WLR

Post by FWLR » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:49 am

Anne and I went for a very short trip on that Loco when we went on our last holiday to visit the North Yorkshire Moors Railway. I can't for the life of my remember where it was though.. :scratch:

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Post by Peter Butler » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:48 am

As far as I'm aware Rod, the only railway operating a replica 'grasshopper' style locomotive is at Beamish Industrial Museum.
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Post by steamyjim » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:23 pm

Thank you for the comments all! I've always loved ancient machinery, but I didn't fancy building a layout set in 1820 or so - everything would have to be scratchbuilt and I know that with my other projects I would never get around to finishing it. I guess the layout will be sort of 'set' around 1910 or so - although really I'm just modelling structures I like and finding somewhere to plonk them! I'm imagining the steam generating station to be in an Art Deco-ish style so that certainly doesn't fit with the 1820s stuff!

Peter - I love Anorexia, a play on Agenoria I assume?! What's she built from, one of those Minicraft Rockets?

Rod - I believe the Beamish replica locomotives run on standard gauge track (or are able to be converted) as I've seen certainly seen the Steam Elephant running on preserved lines.

As predicted, I got bored of the level crossing gates so onto the inclined plane from the coal mine. The plan is to imitate coal being taken from the coal mine, along to the water balance lift (the white cardboard structure), then up to the high level section Gn15-ish, and onto the blast furnace/ canal basin.

Wagons won't actually move between levels, it's all just going to be there and back shuttles, but the wagons will disappear from view to give something of an illusion.

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Re: The Development of the WLR

Post by FWLR » Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:23 am

Peter Butler wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:48 am As far as I'm aware Rod, the only railway operating a replica 'grasshopper' style locomotive is at Beamish Industrial Museum.
Thanks Peter. Anne did tell me off for not remembering :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: The Development of the WLR

Post by FWLR » Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:24 am

Nice video. I may use your idea for Anne's disused coal mine on our line. :thumbleft:

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Post by steamyjim » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:26 pm

FWLR wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:24 am Nice video. I may use your idea for Anne's disused coal mine on our line. :thumbleft:
An inclined plane makes for an excellent working feature I think, and is relatively simple to implement.
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Post by steamyjim » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:30 pm

Was dreading making the supports for the inclined plane, but made a damn sight easier with a simple little jig to set the uprights - the holes in the jig were just to jig the jig during assembly! :lol:

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Post by steamyjim » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:52 pm

And a couple of videos...

The belt 'doing nothing' is to imitate a counterbalance - the lower pulley will be hidden so it appears that a rope heads down a shaft to a water balance. The upper section will be covered with a yet to be built building, the counterbalance pulley will stick out of the back of this.





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Post by ge_rik » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:26 pm

I really enjoy seeing the latest developments. That plane and it's mechanism are a delight. I was expecting the bucket to move on the last video, though. I suspect it will only be a matter of time......

Will the plane be fully automated eventually? I suspect a shuttle module would do the trick.

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Post by steamyjim » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:06 pm

ge_rik wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:26 pm I really enjoy seeing the latest developments. That plane and it's mechanism are a delight. I was expecting the bucket to move on the last video, though. I suspect it will only be a matter of time......

Will the plane be fully automated eventually? I suspect a shuttle module would do the trick.

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The bucket moves as part of the coal mine! It's a bit of a temporary rig up until I decide what sort of cage I want on the end of the hook.

Yes, I'd like to automate the inclined plane, this is where I'm completely out of my depth. I'm guessing a magnet on the wagon and a couple of reed switches would be a sensible way to give the signal but what circuitry I need after that I do not know - I believe, going by your blog that this might be your territory Rik??
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Post by ge_rik » Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:35 pm

I'm just trying to figure out how it could be wired up, but I think you might be able to use one of these, with a couple of diodes and a couple of normally on micro switches.

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Post by Andrew » Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:51 pm

Just catching up with this thread, what fantastic progress! Loving the quirky approach too, the early industrial theme is a really refreshing change.

If you're still looking for something to clad those building uppers with I've got some balsa-esque weatherboarding that you'd be welcome to - it's dead quick to use, you can cut it with a craft knife, but no good for outdoors. Give me a shout if you fancy it, I think I'm just up the road from you.

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Post by steamyjim » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:55 am

Andrew wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:51 pm Just catching up with this thread, what fantastic progress! Loving the quirky approach too, the early industrial theme is a really refreshing change.

If you're still looking for something to clad those building uppers with I've got some balsa-esque weatherboarding that you'd be welcome to - it's dead quick to use, you can cut it with a craft knife, but no good for outdoors. Give me a shout if you fancy it, I think I'm just up the road from you.

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Post by steamyjim » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:59 am

Finally cleared the shed enough for the first run on WLR metals in about two years!

Lady Anne awaiting bodywork, but sounding awesome...





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Post by FWLR » Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:39 am

Brilliant videos. Love your Hercules.. :thumbright: :thumbright:

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FWLR wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:39 am Brilliant videos. Love your Hercules.. :thumbright: :thumbright:
It's a fantastic engine. Cheddar incorporated features you don't see on most 16mm locos, cross tubed boiler, boiler pressure controlled gas valve, and springing, all built to battleship standard! The hinge mechanism for the cab roof is a work of art!

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Post by Andrew » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:57 am

Looking good - that "Hercules" really is quite a loco! And yep, "Lady Anne" is sounding good. Are those John Rogers' old carriages sitting in the siding?

Just let me know re the weatherboarding, yours if you'd like it...

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Post by steamyjim » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:24 pm

Had some friends to visit with their little lad on the weekend so had a big tidy up and got most of the currently operational fleet out. A good time was had by all! I've a thing for collecting locos...
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