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Post by MTA » Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:19 pm

I've put the fishplates on the sections of track I have, and plan to start surveying soon.

I am going to redo the plan again, to make things far more simpler.
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Post by MTA » Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:41 pm

As you can see, the plan is far simpler this time:

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I won't be adding in anyLGB track until this part has been completed.

The circuit on the right will be installed first, along with the point to allow the track to diverge off onto the branch at some point.
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Post by ACLR » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:16 pm

Looks good Si :D

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Post by MTA » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:23 pm

Thanks Graham :D

I hope to start surveying this Sunday. I just need some thick string, some line marking paint, some wooden stakes and boards and a spirit level :)
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Post by ACLR » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:35 pm

keep us posted on the progress :D

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Post by MTA » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:04 pm

I've just done a little bit of surveying and the tightest curves I can use are 3ft radius. I presume this is acceptable?

The station will be built on a slight curve to ease into the 3ft curves at either end.

I need to get some boards and stakes before I work out the gradients.
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Post by SillyBilly » Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:32 pm

All Roundhouse locos go around 2' radius so that sounds sensible to be :) .

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Post by laalratty » Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:01 pm

NO! If you are going to use flexitrack than only use 3 foot radius as an absolute last resort. I have done my upper loop reconstruction because I used a 3 foot radius curve when building it but couldn't get the joints done well. I'd say try to keep to a 4 foot min radius if possible (unless you use the set track which is curved to a constant radius with no kinks)
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Post by MTA » Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:33 pm

I do have some setrack on the way ;)
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Post by penrose » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:36 pm

Just a word of advice Si, but I'd put a triangle in from the loop to the branch line, as per your previous plans. As you will know if you're following the thread on MRW I'm planning to (eventually) have the circuit-triangle-branch line formula on my "garden" railway. It allows a rather nice degree of operational freedom - with triangle you can run end to end from station A to station B over two different routes, or trundle from A back to A via B and the balloon loop, or of course leave the puffer trundling round the circuit when you just want to recline on a nice summers day with a cool drink in hand, watching the train go round...

Flexitrack should be fine on 3ft curves as long as you lay it well; as long as the track is secured firmly in place you won't get movement and kinking at the fishplates. Laying sleepers under the joints can help alleviate kinking, but I never had sleepers under joints and had no problems whatsoever with kinking on my 3 (defunct) 32mm gauge railways.

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Post by mhlr » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:06 pm

Penrose, your the LSR guy?! I'm in Cornwall myself, visit www.freewebs.com/mhlr for a look!
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Post by pauly » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:21 pm

Id add a triangular junction to where the track splits off from the loop :idea:
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Post by MTA » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:20 pm

As you have undoubtedly noticed, I have changed the name of the railway (again). Amberside didn't have a very nice ring to it in my opinion, however I feel the new one is much nicer 8)

I have just been out into the garden to grab some pics so you can get a better idea of size and where the line is going to be. These are currently uploading to Photobucket, watch this space!
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Post by MTA » Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:43 pm

Firstly, I apologise for all the rubbish in the garden. For example, the tubs with rather dead plants in them...

Secondly, I should have waited until there wasn't anything on the washing line :lol:

The strip of soil between the ridged concrete strip and the fence will be the main station for the branch line.

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The pile of concrete slabs will become a tunnel.

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The line will curve to the right from the tunnel to go around the washing line (which will be removed during running sessions, of course :lol: ). As this part of the garden is on a hill I plan to use boards on stilts for a little while then replace it with a concrete viaduct ala S&KLR, this will be for the curve around the washing line.

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The line will then go into a long straight from the washing line to border the path alongside the house.

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I am not sure whether to set the track in the patio or remove the patio where it juts out from the path (the strip of slabs which the tubs are on). I'll have to seek permission from the powers that be...

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In the foreground will be the triangle junction. The circuit will run round the edge of this part of the garden. Again, I may remove the patio in this area to give more room for the curves.

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The station on the circuit will be to the right, where the red flowers are on the extreme right hand side of the picture. I was thinking of an island platform for the station...

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The line runs down this part of the garden as part of the circuit, before swinging to the right in front of the conifer tree.

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Again, the site of the circuit station. The line curves to run alongside the lawn edge from the station at either end.

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This overgrown area will become either an open steaming bay or a storage shed. There is a greenhouse in there somewhere!!!

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The line will curve just in front of the conifer.

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The triangle junction will be just in front of the patio.

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I hope this has helped you visualise the garden line.

I plan to start from the branch line station and work my way from there :)
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Post by made-in-england » Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:57 pm

Looks like it could be quite a fun line!
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Post by ACLR » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:20 pm

that will be a great line Si looking forward to the construction pics :D

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Post by alan2525 » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:20 pm

Looks like a great plan! With garden railways it's always good to keep things simple to begin with, sort out the problems with the track, and get the gradients as small as possible. You can always add to the railway when time and funds allow too.

Keep the radiuses as large as possible, with a long heavy train, they'll still start to tighten up a bit on 3ft 6 radius's. Try to go for the flexitrack and use wide natural bends as often as possible, trains look much better sweeping around the curves rather than jerking around set track bends.
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Post by mhlr » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:47 pm

Cool, good luck with it, sure will be a great line...

By the way, that greenhouse is excellent, I'm sure the plants can photosynthesise nicely... :lol: :lol:
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Post by MTA » Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:57 pm

mhlr wrote:Cool, good luck with it, sure will be a great line...

By the way, that greenhouse is excellent, I'm sure the plants can photosynthesise nicely...  :lol:  :lol:
The greenhouse has been weathered very nicely! I think I will take it down, as we don't use it...

Right, first questions folks. What is the ideal base for the track?

As I stated earlier, I'm starting here:

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and am I right in saying that first off I have to de-weed it (obviously), dig it out then lay weedkiller, hardcore, teram/polythene sheet, ballast then the track?
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Post by made-in-england » Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:59 pm

I have heard that a very thin layer of concrete under the sheet works wonders, OR just dig down deep deep!

I assume that process is correct? as pauly he has done it that way
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