The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by Nomis » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:17 pm

Another lockdown project was building a couple of small wagons, designed to use up bits and pieces that I already had as well as being light enough to lift and carry quite easily. They should be ideal to take with me when I take Jynn visiting other railways (i much prefer to have a train to pull, rather than parading around light engine);

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by tom_tom_go » Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:03 pm

I would be interested in a new thread regarding your Wren build even if you did not build it yourself.

Particularly interested in how you went about painting her as that is the stage I am at with my Sweet Pea and I hate nothing more than spending hours preparing and painting parts to then have them chip with the slightest knock!

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by Nomis » Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:20 am

I will try and get on it once I have finished updating this one...

As for paint, I am a big fan of rustoleum products. Jynn is brush painted with multiple coats of RAL3004 gloss. The trick seems to be allowing plenty of time to dry between coats - i was giving each one a full week in a warm spare room.

Also, thinning the paint really helps it go on well. I used white spirit (in approx 75% paint to 25% thinners ratio).

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by ge_rik » Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:15 pm

Wow! I feel exhausted just reading about it. The railway seems to be progressing at a phenomenal pace - and there's so much of it, too! Really enjoying following its development.

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Post by tom_tom_go » Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:28 pm

I will wait until you start a thread about the Wren before asking anymore questions about it :mrgreen:

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by Nomis » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:49 am

Thanks for all the positive comments, I hope that this thread might encourage a few more people into the larger scales (you never know how many non-members of the forum might stumble across it).

The railway really isn't that big. I walked around this morning and counted rail lengths - the main loop is almost exactly 400' around; that's only 1/4 of a mile in scale.

Hopefully it should be small enough for maintenance to be quite manageable.

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by Nomis » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:54 am

Just occurred to me that replicating a run from caernarfon to blaenau would mean 160 laps of the garden!

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by Nomis » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:23 am

The last major piece of engineering to join up the loop was the level crossing over the drive.

This was a bit technical as it (obviously) has to withstand the weight of cars / vans, both driving straight over and manouvering, is on a falling gradient, and includes two curves.

Overall length of the crossing is around 25', so it would also have to incorporate at least one rail joint.

Fortunatley i found that the gravel of the drive was only shallow, and there was a firm (tarmac & concrete) surface underneath. This gave an ideal structure to build onto.

For strength, the track on this section is made entirely from 20x10mm steel bar, with welded sleepers of the same material every 12". Gauge is slightly widened to allow for the curves, and give a little extra clearance for the debris that will inevitable get in between the rails.

I ordered fresh steel via a local supplier, and had it delivered. While not the cheapest way, this allowed me to keep it in the 20' lengths that it is supplied and reduce the number of track joints needed.

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by Nomis » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:28 am

The way ahead is cleared:

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Welding up a track panel inside the garage:

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I found that the most practical way to get an even curve was to fully pre-weld the sleepers on the straight section along with one rail only on the curve. I then placed the track in position (both curve and level), then tack welded the other ends of the "free" sleepers to the other rail.

This gives a rigid structure that can then be taken back inside the garage for final welding (its hard to make a good mig weld outside, especially when I have to use an extension lead which significantly reduces the output of the welding machine).

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by Nomis » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:35 am

First panel in place, and initial concreting has begun:

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I had to wait for suitable weather, and a week where we could keep the car "outside" the track to do the next part as the concrete takes about a week to cure enough to drive over safely.

Concreting permanently into place;
ImageDSC_0185_1593025687654 by simon mace, on Flickr

I pressed chippings into the wet concrete either side of the rails to try and make the whole thing as invisible as possible. The level in the "7 inch" is about 10mm lower than the rail tops - this should allow plenty of flange clearance, but also support the tyres of cars passing over.

As you can see, there was quite a bit of rail cleaning needed once the concrete had cured, but it is all ok now.

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by Nomis » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:40 am

Which means I can finally ride all the way around non-stop!



The above video is a little high-speed. The blue o&k diesel is geared a lot slower and can be driven entirely "hands off".

Unfortunately the weather in the south west has turned very wet in the last week, so I haven't yet taken Jynn around the whole track (it's much easier to do a quick run of a battery loco between showers).

Also, the railway now has a human-powered loco:

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This is quite possibly the silliest thing dad has ever built - but it does work, and well!

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by ge_rik » Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:52 pm

Must be satisfying to have the track finished. Presumably, now the fun really starts 🤗

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by Nomis » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:33 pm

A better video:



This one is at a more scale speed, and scale point of view.

Apologies for the noise, this was shot with my phone placed on a flat wagon immediatley in front of the loco...

P.S.
My youtube videos don't seem to resize in the thread - am I missing something?

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by tom_tom_go » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:06 pm

Nomis wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:33 pm P.S.
My youtube videos don't seem to resize in the thread - am I missing something?
Is this when you view the forum on mobile?

It has always been like that from memory, I haven't put anything in to resize it.

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by Nomis » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:43 pm

Not tried from a desktop, probably just a mobile thing.

Not a big issue, just checking there wasn't something I should have clicked...

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by tom_tom_go » Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:53 pm

New video is great, a very relaxing way to spend a weekend!

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by Jimmyb » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:30 am

Nomis wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:33 pm A better video:
Not just a better video, a great video, I am glad i don't have room for a 71/4" railway, otherwise i think i may be falling out with the domestic authorities.

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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by Lonsdaler » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:56 am

Jimmyb wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:30 am
Nomis wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:33 pm A better video:
Not just a better video, a great video, I am glad i don't have room for a 71/4" railway, otherwise i think i may be falling out with the domestic authorities.
+1 for that! :lol: I am not jealous at all :mrgreen:
You've got great scope to come up with a lovely scenic run. If ever you come up to the Lakes/N. Lancashire, make contact with Mike Cave of Littledale Light Railway. I'm sure he would welcome a visit from a fellow 7 1/4"-er
He's got a group on Facebook and can be messaged via that.
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Re: The Gables Garden Railway (7 1/4")

Post by Nomis » Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:19 pm

Littledale has to be right up there as one of the best garden railways in the country. It's a beautiful line, and has a really strong sense of identity and scale through all of the stock and features (i particularly like how well "centurion" fits in with the two river class locos).

Would love to visit one day.

(Makes me wonder how many other private lines like this there are behind closed doors.....)

The late Bob Symes' Green Dene (works) railway is also highly inspirational:


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