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Re: NEW FWLR LINE

Post by Big Jim » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:52 am

I don't have anything handy to compare it to at the moment. But it might be worth checking that the grub screw on the regulator arm is tight and the screw on the clamp is tight.

If memory serves me right, I think the difference between full open and full closed on a RH rc regulator is a shade under 90 degrees.

Another area worth investigating is the regulator itself. There is an O ring seal on the needle that can stick. This can happen after a period out of use. This can also cause problems if it is not seated correctly.

Stripping down is not difficult, mark the positions of the linkage and unscrew the regulator arm. Unscrew the gland nut and have a look inside.
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Re: NEW FWLR LINE

Post by FWLR » Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:09 am

Mmmm, mine is no were near that Jim. More like 25 degrees, if that…………..

Also on the Tx, the guy did release the return spring on the lever that controls the speed regulator, so it means it can be left at a set speed without having to keep my finger on it. It does work I suppose, but it’s hard to judge with the loco acting the way she is.

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Post by Big Jim » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:05 pm

Okay, I was out a bit with the 90 degrees. I have just checked my Russell, the moment is about 45 degrees.
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Re: NEW FWLR LINE

Post by Dasher » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:34 pm

Hi Rod

I'm away at the moment and so don't have a loco to hand. When you say that you've had the spring removed - is that because it was a non Roundhouse Tx? Ideally (even if non-Roundhouse) your Tx should be throttle on the left and this should not be sprung in the up down travel. If the left is not sprung then the right will usually be sprung in the L-R travel. Throttle on the left is what is known as a Mode 2 Tx.

A couple of things worth looking at:

Where on its travel is the throttle (regulator) trim set? The factory normally set this at the top of the available travel. This is to allow you to compensate for wear in the regulator 'o' ring. On my "Jack" I actually have mine set at the bottom of the travel as I can virtually drive the Loco on the trim lever (with the main stick fully down) giving quite fine slow speed control - most of the time I use the throttle lever though and consequently when I set up the Lady Anne I set it to the Roundhouse spec..

As you already have a photo record now of the min and max radio throw and control rod length, disconnect the rod from the regulator and see if the arm will move to close off the regulator further (if already the loco is not moving when in gear and up to pressure then you have the answer to this one without any disconnecting - the low throw is set correctly).

If you are looking for slow speed control then you need to be sure that the regulator is fully closed when the throttle stick is at its lowest point (and the trim at its highest point) as above. At the servo end, the further out from centre that you place the control rod on the servo horn then the wider the arc it travels through. The converse is also true and you have both the servo horn and the regulator horn to play with. To be totally clear, the rod on your regulator horn is set in the outermost position. Obviously, from your photos, I can't see the servo horn. So if you wish then you can set this give give you a 'feel' - it depends on how much you want to fiddle!

Personally I do not regard a R/C model to be the same as a manual model - I never take my thumb off the throttle stick - but then again I come from a background of R/C helicopters and racing 1/8th Nitro off road cars - where the consequences of loss of control can be substantial and the time frame from serenity to total destruction can be very rapid indeed!

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Re: NEW FWLR LINE

Post by Andrew » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:35 pm

Like the slate loads Rod, they look just the thing. Hope you get your loco troubles sorted soon...

All the best,

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Post by tom_tom_go » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:47 pm

Rod, send it my way I will sort it out as long as you cover P&P both ways...

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Re: NEW FWLR LINE

Post by FWLR » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:54 am

Andrew wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:35 pm Like the slate loads Rod, they look just the thing. Hope you get your loco troubles sorted soon...

All the best,

Andrew.
Thanks Andrew, they wouldn’t have been possible without your brilliant build of those wagons.

I have run them behind Anne’s Tram, but they just don’t look right…… :lol: :lol: :lol: They did run smoothly though, Anne was really impressed.

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Re: NEW FWLR LINE

Post by steamgeorge » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:51 am

I like those rivets on your HGLW engine - it adds some fine detail that really brings the model to life. :thumbright:

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Post by ge_rik » Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:03 pm

FWLR wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:54 am .........
I have done a kit from HGLW, a Wittenberg Schafer Loco, it’s not a bad build as ge_rik has said. If you follow his thread and Blog he will show you how he did his building of it. ........
Thanks for the plug, Rod, but I blogged the build of HGLW's LB1 kit, which is similar but not quite the same. I think Chris Bird posted on the forum about his build of the HGLW Wittenberg Schafer kit.

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Re: NEW FWLR LINE

Post by FWLR » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:05 am

Oops, Sorry Rik, you know what my memory like….. :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol:


Anyway, don’t need a reason to plug your’e Blog Rik….. :thumbright: :thumbright:

Everyone should have a look and they will find it so enthralling and informative…. :king:

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Re: NEW FWLR LINE

Post by FWLR » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:07 am

steamgeorge wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:51 am I like those rivets on your HGLW engine - it adds some fine detail that really brings the model to life. :thumbright:

George
Thanks George.

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Re: NEW FWLR LINE

Post by FWLR » Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:34 pm

The Willow tree, that's been a bane of the line and the garden is hopefully coming down tomorrow.

The tree,
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So has it's being took down, I have had to take up part of our line.

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Not a real problem however, because Anne wants me to extend the line at the top curve.

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So when the tree and the weather warms up, there will be a slightly longer line at the top curve.

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Re: NEW FWLR LINE

Post by Peter Butler » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:13 pm

That's a big tree to fell without causing some mess, and potentially, damage. I hope the guys are pros and know their stuff. Please send pictures of them in action.... it would be great to see.
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Post by tom_tom_go » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:36 pm

It's a shame it has to be cut down as they are important for wildlife in ever developing urban areas.

I hope it's not being felled just for the railway!

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Post by Peter Butler » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:01 pm

I must agree with your sentiment Tom, but is is clearly a beautiful tree in the wrong place. I love trees, we have lots and I nurture most of them, but if they need to be felled, I do. However, if they are not too well established I prefer to uproot them and plant them elsewhere. I doubt Rod has this option, he has more tree than garden!
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Re: NEW FWLR LINE

Post by FWLR » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:14 am

I love trees Tom, but it's uprooting the back neighbours fence and it's when we get those gales, like we have had these last few months, it does sway from the bottom, so when you look at the top it's very freighting. Also the only birds that mainly go on to it are pigeons nesting and roosting, so you can imagine the mess they leave all over the place. The bushes and small trees to the right of the track have bird feeders on them, coconut feeders and one of Anne's garden ornaments that is hanging on one of the trees, I put mealy worms on it for the smaller birds, although the starlings and blackbirds do get some as well.

In a way yes Tom it's also going because of the mess they leave on the track, it's ok to a point for me, I can do some thing about it, but the Grandchildren are a different matter.

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Re: NEW FWLR LINE

Post by ge_rik » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:14 am

I'll bet it was an attractive little tree 20 years ago, but it looks like it's now outgrown its space. Maybe you can replace it with a slow growing rowan, an acer or something similar.

I remember when the council took down some larger trees on the the boundary of our garden. They took them down in stages, starting at the top. Fascinating to watch, but the job required someone with the agility of a chimpanzee to wield a chain saw at the top of a swaying tree, making sure each branch was secured with a rope for lowering once it was lopped.

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Re: NEW FWLR LINE

Post by tom_tom_go » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:36 am

Tree surgeon is a skilled job for sure...

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Post by BorisSpencer » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:33 pm

FWLR wrote: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:14 am ...it's also going because of the mess they leave on the track, it's ok to a point for me, I can do some thing about it, but the Grandchildren are a different matter.

I wouldn't let them near the railway until they're potty trained.

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Re: NEW FWLR LINE

Post by IrishPeter » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:56 pm

In the ordinary UK back garden willows are a mixed blessing at best, not least because they grow quickly and tend to takeover. They also have a propensity for failing catastrophically with very little or no warning. Given that it is swaying alarmingly and undermining the fence it has probably outstayed its welcome. Mind you in the old days they were extremely useful trees in that they were pollarded and systematically harvested for basket making, hurdles, etc..

On the other problem - 'Keep Britain tidy eat pigeons!' Notice over the lintel of our neighbours shed when I was a kid.

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