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Re: Wadebridge Light Railway

Post by steamgeorge » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:27 pm

ge_rik wrote: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:54 pm I like the look of the concrete mix. Have you included some budgie grit to get that finish?

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It is a mix of sharp sand and cement in the ratio 4:1. There is no budgie grit in it - the sharp sand used has some grit in it already. The sand is Kelkay build mate sharp sand and was picked up at my local garden centre.

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Re: Wadebridge Light Railway

Post by ge_rik » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:32 pm

steamgeorge wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:27 pm
It is a mix of sharp sand and cement in the ratio 4:1. There is no budgie grit in it - the sharp sand used has some grit in it already. The sand is Kelkay build mate sharp sand and was picked up at my local garden centre.
Thanks. Must see what sort of sand they have at our local garden centre. I usually buy a bulk bag of builders' sand which is fairly uniform an uninteresting when mixed with cement.

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Re: Wadebridge Light Railway

Post by philipy » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:11 pm

ge_rik wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:32 pm
steamgeorge wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:27 pm
It is a mix of sharp sand and cement in the ratio 4:1. There is no budgie grit in it - the sharp sand used has some grit in it already. The sand is Kelkay build mate sharp sand and was picked up at my local garden centre.
Thanks. Must see what sort of sand they have at our local garden centre. I usually buy a bulk bag of builders' sand which is fairly uniform an uninteresting when mixed with cement.

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I agree the halt is looking good. I do have a soft spot for halts in general.

Rik, I always get sharp sand in 20(?)Kg bags from Wickes, B&Q, etc. I should think you'd get it from your builders merchants as well.
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Re: Wadebridge Light Railway

Post by steamgeorge » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:05 pm

Hi all,

I have reached a dilemma over coach livery :scratch: . I picked up some unfinished IP engineering roundhouse coaches second hand and I am currently painting them in WDLR livery. I know what colours to use but I don't know what pattern to use. I have been experimenting with the coach colours and would like your opinions and suggestions to help me. There are some photos of 2 coaches and some of my other coaches. The new coaches don't have to match my existing ones as they won't be in the same train due to the size difference. I have lettered the liveries to make referencing them easier. The livery is green lower half and a white upper half but they could be painted all green if it suites


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This livery matches the talyllyn coach but I think the green is too low and makes the coaches look out of proportion. (Livery B)
This livery matches the talyllyn coach but I think the green is too low and makes the coaches look out of proportion. (Livery B)
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close up of the livery
close up of the livery
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This is the livery I thought suited the ip engineering roundhouse coaches the best. (livery A)
This is the livery I thought suited the ip engineering roundhouse coaches the best. (livery A)
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This is one of my original coaches. They would all of been painted this way if they would of had small panels above and below the windows that could of been painted white ( it looks wrong without)
This is one of my original coaches. They would all of been painted this way if they would of had small panels above and below the windows that could of been painted white ( it looks wrong without)
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This is a Talyllyn coach I built from a kit but painted in my livery.
This is a Talyllyn coach I built from a kit but painted in my livery.
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Re: Wadebridge Light Railway

Post by IanC » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:56 pm

The IP Roundhouse coaches are not the easiest to paint. I have two of them and had been looking out for more for ages to extend my rake. Mine are painted red and cream. I think I have posted pictures of them somewhere! If I can't find the location to post a link I'll take some pictures if interested.
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Re: Wadebridge Light Railway

Post by FWLR » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:49 am

George, could you not go up to the bottom of the windows with the green and see how it looks then.

I think it could be because the IP are two compartment and they look compressed compared to your other coaches.

If by painting with the green to the bottom of the windows doesn’t look right, you can always re-paint again. Annoying I know, but until you try it…………

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Post by steamgeorge » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:08 pm

FWLR wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:49 am George, could you not go up to the bottom of the windows with the green and see how it looks then.

I think it could be because the IP are two compartment and they look compressed compared to your other coaches.

If by painting with the green to the bottom of the windows doesn’t look right, you can always re-paint again. Annoying I know, but until you try it…………
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Imagine the colour was consistent (this is for mock ups only)
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Re: Wadebridge Light Railway

Post by steamgeorge » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:08 pm

IanC wrote: Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:56 pm The IP Roundhouse coaches are not the easiest to paint. I have two of them and had been looking out for more for ages to extend my rake. Mine are painted red and cream. I think I have posted pictures of them somewhere! If I can't find the location to post a link I'll take some pictures if interested.
I would be very interested to see those coaches

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Re: Wadebridge Light Railway

Post by IanC » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:23 pm

George,

I will be running them this weekend so I'll take some pictures for you. I did find the ones I took, but they were taken before completion. I'll post them over the weekend.
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Post by steamgeorge » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:53 pm

That would be brilliant, thanks :thumbright:

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Re: Wadebridge Light Railway

Post by FWLR » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:34 am

steamgeorge wrote: Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:08 pm
FWLR wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:49 am George, could you not go up to the bottom of the windows with the green and see how it looks then.

I think it could be because the IP are two compartment and they look compressed compared to your other coaches.

If by painting with the green to the bottom of the windows doesn’t look right, you can always re-paint again. Annoying I know, but until you try it…………
Like this...
Well it looks better, don’t you think.

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Re: Wadebridge Light Railway

Post by Andrew » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:32 am

Tricky without those upper panels, isn't it?

Personally I think Option B's best - although I'd be tempted to try it with the black bits in green - even the small amount of cream seems to be enough to say "two-tone livery"...

Good luck,

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Re: Wadebridge Light Railway

Post by tom_tom_go » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:32 am

Have you already glued the axle boxes in place?

If not, suggest you get these and the wheels painted or chemically treated as it miles easier to do this way.

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Re: Wadebridge Light Railway

Post by IanC » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:36 am

steamgeorge wrote: Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:53 pm That would be brilliant, thanks :thumbright:
No problem. :thumbleft:
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Post by steamgeorge » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:40 pm

tom_tom_go wrote: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:32 am Have you already glued the axle boxes in place?

If not, suggest you get these and the wheels painted or chemically treated as it miles easier to do this way.
Unfortunately they were already glued in place when I bought them. I will just have to use a small brush on the axle boxes however, 2 of the coaches have painted wheels already.


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Post by steamgeorge » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:46 pm

Here is an update on the coaches. I have tried painting one in all green with white upper panels, I think it looks good and I prefer it to livery b (even though it looks miles better with the green raised to just below the windows). It helps make the coaches look smaller because they stand out less. However, it does look very green. Here are some photos of all three coaches, the new livery, and how big they are compared to some of my other stock. Sorry about the quality of the photos; they were taken on my phone in low light levels.

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Look at the height difference between the Manning Wardle and the coach!
Look at the height difference between the Manning Wardle and the coach!
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The original coaches are dwarfed by the other coach
The original coaches are dwarfed by the other coach
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A comparison between livery a with black outline or green outline.
A comparison between livery a with black outline or green outline.
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livery a with more green
livery a with more green
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All 3 coaches together
All 3 coaches together
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Re: Wadebridge Light Railway

Post by IanC » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:13 pm

George, here's a picture of my IP coaches. The lighting wasn't great and they have a gloss finish so they weren't easy to photograph.
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Re: Wadebridge Light Railway

Post by steamgeorge » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:58 pm

Thank you for the photos, I will use a livery very similar to them as I think it suits the coaches well.

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Re: Wadebridge Light Railway

Post by IanC » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:46 am

George, despite being well over 10 years old, and not the most detailed coaches I like 'em. If I came across any I'd certainly add them to the pair I already have. I look forward to seeing your finished rake.
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Re: Wadebridge Light Railway

Post by steamgeorge » Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:45 pm

History was made at the WDLR last Sunday, we had our first ever visitors to the railway! Bruce and Peter of the West Cornwall Light Railway came over for the afternoon, both bringing an engine and stock. Bruce brought a Regner Vincent and Peter brought his Roundhose Karen. We made the most of the sunny afternoon with some good running. I steamed my Accucraft LnB Taw. Here are some photos of the afternoon.
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Bruce's Vincent
Bruce's Vincent
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Karen and Taw at St Kew Highway
Karen and Taw at St Kew Highway
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Karen approaches Trethevan halt
Karen approaches Trethevan halt
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Karen with Taw in the distance
Karen with Taw in the distance
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A busy moment at St Kew
A busy moment at St Kew
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Karen rounds the loop
Karen rounds the loop
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